I think Australian WSHA will kill any plans for a nuclear sub.
http://www.navyrecognition.com/index...d=65&Itemid=93[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=2]Australian Defence officials have revealed that at least two possible contenders for the navy's new submarine fleet, the Spanish S-80 and French Scorpene class boat, have been ruled out of the future submarine project.
Answering questions on notice from Opposition spokesman David Johnston, Defence said both vessels did not meet "Australia's broad needs as outlined in the Defence White Paper".
They are smaller than the Collins and the White Paper calls for 12 larger submarines to cost up to $36 billion. [/SIZE][/FONT]
Off course they are smaller so it is no very surprising. But look at all modern subs designs available for export (with AIP)... none of them displaces more than 3,000 tons
http://www.*******.com/article/2011/...7ND1W020111213Australia has asked three European companies to submit designs to replace its submarine fleet at a cost of up to A$36 billion ($36 billion) in a defence buildup aimed at protecting resource exports and countering an accelerating arms race in Asia.
French naval builder DCNS, part owned by Thales, Germany's Howaldtswerke-Deutsche Werft GmbH and Spanish state shipbuilder Navantia had been asked for information on conventional submarine designs, Australia's Minister for Defence Materiel Jason Clare said on Tuesday.
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this forum somehow hates that newsservice
Be interesting what types of designs they come up with, the required capabilities are bigger than anything Europe is used to building.
Just wondering now the Australian labour Government is changing its nuclear policies if a future nuke fleet is a potential. Australia bought Abrams tanks to be able to work with the US. 2RAR are to be mini-marines. What is the navy doing about inter-operability?
If the budget is $3 billion per sub, then go off the shelf nuclear. No need to come up with a design from scratch.
As stated in previous threads, nuclear will NEVER happen, end of story. There is no political willpower or public support for it. Instead we will build the largest and most capable conventional boats in the world, and pay the requires $$$. In short we want a non-nuclear boat that can do most of what an SSN can do, and that's a tall, but necessary, order. They will also be built in Australia, no exceptions. We need the onshore skills/facilities to build, maintain, refit, and modify our own boats. Off-the-shelf will not do.
$36 billion is a lot of money.. you can build a small navy with it..
Don't see what the damn big deal is about a nuclear-powered sub.