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    Any idea what kind of SAM system is involved ?

    I would guess that might be the JV Israeli/Indian Barak-8 (Land-Based version aka LRSAM)

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    A bit hard to guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AttilaA View Post
    Maybe SPYDER?

    IAI produces radars, electronics aswell missiles for the system, if I m not mistaken. Altough Rafael are responsible for exporting SPYDER.
    Barak-8 is an upper tiers SAM system, more powerful than Spyder in both effective range and sensor acquisition. Spyder is more tactical and also much cheaper. I think for the high value of the deal and considering the acquisition of the Green Pine radar, it could mean Azerbaijan is getting the high-end stuff. Also, we don't know what shore-to-sea anti-ship missile is involved, my bet is a recent version of Gabriel whether the IV or the V.

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    Well, I edited my post. When it comes to it, SPYDER are considered a product of Rafael and not IAI.

    Possible indeed, a land-based version of Barak-8.
    Last edited by AttilaA; 02-26-2012 at 11:40 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AttilaA View Post
    Well, I edited my message. When it comes to it, SPYDER are considered a product of Rafael and not IAI.

    Possible indeed.

    This is land-based version of Barak-8?

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...8_launcher.jpg
    Yep and there two sort of missile available (AFAIK), a normal variant with a range of 60-70km and an extended range variant of >120km. Both featured the same active radar homing. The ground radar is the EL/M 2084 which is also the ground radar of the Iron Dome and David Sling and is able to perform both artillery (counter battery) and air defense task. Here is two pictures to illustrate my post :




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    Israeli defense officials on Sunday confirmed $1.6 billion in deals to sell drones as well as anti-aircraft and missile defense systems to Azerbaijan, bringing sophisticated Israeli technology to the doorstep of archenemy Iran.
    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomac...aijan-1.414916

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ren789 View Post
    Any idea what kind of SAM system is involved ?

    I would guess that might be the JV Israeli/Indian Barak-8 (Land-Based version aka LRSAM)
    Barak 8 hasn't been tested yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tanks_alot View Post
    A win-win to Israel ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AttilaA View Post
    Israeli experts will soon travel to Azerbaijan to train Azerbaijani armed forces personal on new systems that will be delivered.

    http://izrus.co.il/dvuhstoronka/arti...#ixzz1nUDUyTWD
    Just to let you know, you can go to Google translate, http://translate.google.co.il/# , post a link there and copy the result link, it equals the whole page of the link after translation (not perfect but..).. :

    http://translate.google.co.il/transl...DUyTWD&act=url

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    Quote Originally Posted by twinblade View Post
    Barak 8 hasn't been tested yet.
    Any source? From what I gather, test involving the whole system started last year and the complete development is scheduled for this year.
    The missile is on schedule to complete development and be integrated on board the first combat vessels by 2012.

    http://defense-update.com/20110211_iai-drdo-barak8.html
    But you have a point the system is not operational yet. Although I'm not sure it should deter Azerbaijan from ordering Barak-8.

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    Dont know why, but my gut says that the customer might be Indonesia

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    Quote Originally Posted by makavelli View Post
    Dont know why, but my gut says that the customer might be Indonesia
    It is over, the customer is Azerbaijan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ren789 View Post
    Any source? From what I gather, test involving the whole system started last year and the complete development is scheduled for this year.

    But you have a point the system is not operational yet. Although I'm not sure it should deter Azerbaijan from ordering Barak-8.
    Azerbaijan had ordered EXTRA from IMI before it's development was finished AFAIK, so it's entirely possible.
    Last edited by AttilaA; 02-27-2012 at 03:53 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ren789 View Post
    Any source? From what I gather, test involving the whole system started last year and the complete development is scheduled for this year.
    Those are just preliminary tests for DRDO's dual pulse rocket motor and vertical launch system. System integration and live fire tests are yet to be done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twinblade View Post
    Those are just preliminary tests for DRDO's dual pulse rocket motor and vertical launch system. System integration and live fire tests are yet to be done.
    You are right. But I don't think it's exceptional in the defense business to order something still in development (F-35 orders from Japan & Israel). The reports on the deal with Azerbaijan specify mentioned an anti-aircraft missile and IAI doesn't have such thing operational in its inventory yet. The closest things related to SAM in IAI's catalog are Arrow-2 and Barak-1. That's why I was thinking more about the Barak-8.

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