David Cameron accuses Argentina of 'colonialism' towards Falklands

[Toddy1]

I wonder how much of this has to do with the upcoming Scottish referendum, from the outside looking in the Argies probably think even the UK home nations wants to be independant so we can make a play for the Falklands again.

BTW for the record alex salmonheid is truly Scotland's shame. United we stand, divided we fall.

[Trinatzat]

Somehow I don't think you're going to last long on this board with talk that disrespects the value of soldiers lives. Get lost.

i value the lifes of man in uniform moe then the most thing on the planet as a former soldier, who served conscription with pride, im a neutral party here and have no partiality here which also to answere Toddy1's question, maybe i was not understood in the righ way ther, i meant mostly the policions with ther unlogical but mostly meaningless oxygen waste, never inteded to be seen disrespectfull to soldiers lifes, if you have nothing to back up your words then why bother taking, and if you think your couse is right and just you go for it and your people and soldiers will understand agree and follow

the argentinians, better to say the politicians or all who just like to talk, are just looking retarded by blowing big words with no weight meaning or value

[Berwickk]

i value the lifes of man in uniform moe then the most thing on the planet as a former soldier, who served conscription with pride, im a neutral party here and have no partiality here which also to answere Toddy1's question, maybe i was not understood in the righ way ther, i meant mostly the policions with ther unlogical but mostly meaningless oxygen waste, never inteded to be seen disrespectfull to soldiers lifes, if you have nothing to back up your words then why bother taking, and if you think your couse is right and just you go for it and your people and soldiers will understand agree and follow

I would prefer the saber rattling from both sides to conflict any day, as would pretty much everyone on this board, I figure English isn't your first language and some of what you said may have been lost in translation that lead to our misunderstanding, just try and be a bit more careful about what you say.

[Trinatzat]

I would prefer the saber rattling from both sides to conflict any day, as would pretty much everyone on this board, I figure English isn't your first language and some of what you said may have been lost in translation that lead to our misunderstanding, just try and be a bit more careful about what you say.

yes indeed it isn't, will have to watch better how i could be diffrent understood

and of course i would prefer everything then a war myself, but that was my point why even start to saber rattling?, if your talk is just talk it has no weight, so no meaning, its empty words, so why even start?

[Climber]

yes indeed it isn't, will have to watch better how i could be diffrent understood

and of course i would prefer everything then a war myself, but that was my point why even start to saber rattling?, if your talk is just talk it has no weight, so no meaning, its empty words, so why even start?

And whats your knowledge in this matter, mister conscript?

[Strelok126]

yes indeed it isn't, will have to watch better how i could be diffrent understood

and of course i would prefer everything then a war myself, but that was my point why even start to saber rattling?, if your talk is just talk it has no weight, so no meaning, its empty words, so why even start?

Perhaps you should tell the US, Iranian, Israeli, Russian, British, French, Chinese and North Korean governments that instead of us? If your talk is just talk it has no weight.

[Lawndart]

Why don't we claim say, Staten Island (Tierra Del Fuego, not New York) and demand talks on it's sovereignty, then accuse Kirchner of 'arrogance' when she refuses just to show her how ridiculous she's being?

Just like the Falklands in their case, we've never ruled Staten Island, and our claim to their island has just as much strength as their claim to the Falklands (i.e. NONE).

[Climber]

Perhaps you should tell the US, Iranian, Israeli, Russian, British, French, Chinese and North Korean governments that instead of us? If your talk is just talk it has no weight.

He is doin all the talk but not any walk.

[Dankster]

I'll take obnoxious yapping over flying bullets any day. It truly baffles me why the Argies continue to make this moronic claim, I hope the Brits continue stand firm

[archibald harry tuttle]

They think they can intimidate the UK because they believe Hugo Chavez profecy about the impending demise of the "empires" and blindly accept the fantasy that they are "THE" rising economic power of the century eventho their ecomonic grouth depend on exporting to the "empires". They have the very mindset their military junta had in the 1980's and are likely to follow the same path to oblivion.

[muck]

While I think the Argie claim on the Falklands is insolent and pointless seeing that the islanders wish to stay British (so I hold the same viewpoint as Cameron), it begs the question why he had to use such a word. Really bad choice of words there. The UK was the archetype of a colonial power so he could've foreseen that this word would be turned against his country.

[Ordie]

While I think the Argie claim on the Falklands is insolent and pointless.

It's a claim.
No more no less.
How one reacts to the claim is up to them.

[muck]

It's a claim.
No more no less.
How one reacts to the claim is up to them.

I can't follow you even though I'm trying hard. A bloody war was fought over these islands so Argentina's strongheaded claim isn't something to tag as "no big deal".

[Ordie]

I can't follow you even though I'm trying hard. A bloody war was fought over these islands so Argentina's strongheaded claim isn't something to tag as "no big deal".

Argentina in 1982 was under a brutal military dictatorship. Their hold on power was waning and their legitimacy at home and abroad was being questioned. To regain the legitimacy, they took on a patriotic theme that would unite the nation. That was the Malvinas claim.

The plan has worked at first, but as diplomatic and military efforts began to fall apart, so did the legitimacy of the military junta. There was no way out but call for election and the restoration of civilian rule.

Since then, successive Argentine governments literally de-clawed its military. This was easy to do because of the military's brutal reputation of human rights abuses. Argentina became more engaged in the world including the expansion of diplomatic relations with the UK. In order to do this Argentina sent Anglo-Argentines to St. James Palace.

Most Argentines today are very much like Britons in seeking an ordinary life. Many regards the islands as out of sight out of mind places. The majority of Argentines reject any military intervention. Many Argentines know their economy is fragile and seek nothing more than being part of the global community.

Fernandez is a politician that seeks the headlines and political leverage within Latin America. The Falklands were thrown under the diplomatic bus and caught Cameron with his pants down. Had the UK had more soft and commercial influence in Latin America, things might have turned differently.

The best thing that Cameron can do is ask the FA to send Manchester United, Liverpool or Chelsea down to Latin America for exhibition matches and mitigate support for Fernandez in the process.

[muck]

The best thing that Cameron can do is ask the FA to send Manchester United, Liverpool or Chelsea down to Latin America for exhibition matches and mitigate support for Fernandez in the process.

You never cease to amaze me. I'm convinced that you'll eventually be appointed Secretary General to the United Nations.