Reply With QuoteThe question was: "Could you please explain how this has any relevance to the Dutch situation?"Originally Posted by Ordie
The State of Oaklahoma voters pass a measure to ban Sharia Law.
The Federal Courts struck down that measure because it was discriminatory.
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jan...haria-20120111
The question was: "Could you please explain how this has any relevance to the Dutch situation?"
Again, any relevance to the Dutch situaton?
I'll help you along a little; no reference to religion or any specific clothing is made in the law's proposal.
No
Europeans have a problem in defining national identity and culture. (and the protection thereof). Especially in the context of liberal democracies in a global society that is highly mobile.
The Dutch measure is targeted and discriminatory to people of a specific faith.
That is not for government or anyone to judge. It's an individual's choice.
So you stick to saying the Americans know stuff better than us Europeans and that we should follow your example.
You do this even though no one tried to lecture you on American politics. I can't help but see this as a very arrogant attitude which does you no credit. Europe ain't no unconstitutional states of terror rule. I told you before and I shall tell you again now: Our understanding of freedoms and how they're to be exercised is different, but it's neither worse nor better than your understanding.
Ordie, there is no national identity for Europeans. We don't need defining of it either as we are a open society. The closest thing we get is a regional identity, regional being a relative term that can cover as little as a single village or a cross-border area. And even these regions are not fixed as they too interact with the world at large.
Yes.
Because we have no culture to define and protect.
Everyone is protected under the same law. Unlike European multiculturalism, we don't make exception.
Oh. Alright. Pardon me for having asked.
Not realy, it merely prohibits from covering your face while in a public space.
Or did I miss something and there is a faith based around the concept of covering ones face?
And the individual will have to conform to larger society. If that does not sit well with them, there are places that accomodate their wishes better. Ultra-orthodox religion and the worldviews it brings with it should not be welcomed in this country.
I'm from a Frisian family. You can only use Frisian in official matters in the province of Fryslân. Yet nobody complains about that. I feel this a restriction imposed on my culture by the non-frisians. Why won't anybody defend my culture? Am I not a minority, an indigenous minority even?
Why do you guys even try to argue with this troll?
Should conformity be an individual's choice or government mandate?
Our constitution specifically mentions this very topic; all that reside in, or fall under the jurisdiction of, the Kingdom of the Netherlands shall be treated equaly while under the same circomstances.
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