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    French Interior Minister Claude Gueant, who also holds the immigration portfolio, caused political uproar by claiming that not all civilisations are equal, with some more advanced than others.
    "Contrary to what the left's relativist ideology says, for us all civilisations are not of equal value," Gueant on Saturday told a conference in the French parliament building, but closed to the media.
    "Those which defend humanity seem to us to be more advanced than those that do not," he argued in his speech at a meeting organised by a right-wing students group.
    "Those which defend liberty, equality and fraternity, seem to us superior to those which accept tyranny, the subservience of women, social and ethnic hatred," he went on his speech, a copy of which was obtained by AFP.
    He stressed the need to "protect our civilisation."
    The interior minister's comments provoked a torrent of criticism from the opposition and on the Internet, less than three months a head of a French presidential election.

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    So telling the truth is contraversial? It would have been fun to read his list of superior civilisations....that would be thread material

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    One civilization conquered the world and got everyone wearing cotton tee-shirts, denim jeans, and suits with neckties; the other civilizations didn't. Deal with it.

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    I agree. Mogols probably were the greatest of them all.

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    May not make everyone happy but there is much truth in his words

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    oh my god, he said something obvious. How dare he!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sohaminator View Post
    I agree. Mogols probably were the greatest of them all.
    You mean like Jack Warner and Sam Goldwynn? oh wait thats Moguls...

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    I wonder how the Arab world feels about that. So much for being a liberty-, equality- and fraternity-loving 'western' ally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ambassador View Post
    I wonder how the Arab world feels about that. So much for being a liberty-, equality- and fraternity-loving 'western' ally.
    exactly...i agree with you

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    Quote Originally Posted by leloup46 View Post
    French Interior Minister Claude Gueant, who also holds the immigration portfolio, caused political uproar by claiming that not all civilisations are equal, with some more advanced than others.
    "Contrary to what the left's relativist ideology says, for us all civilisations are not of equal value," Gueant on Saturday told a conference in the French parliament building, but closed to the media.
    "Those which defend humanity seem to us to be more advanced than those that do not," he argued in his speech at a meeting organised by a right-wing students group.
    "Those which defend liberty, equality and fraternity, seem to us superior to those which accept tyranny, the subservience of women, social and ethnic hatred," he went on his speech, a copy of which was obtained by AFP.
    He stressed the need to "protect our civilisation."
    The interior minister's comments provoked a torrent of criticism from the opposition and on the Internet, less than three months a head of a French presidential election.

    http://en-maktoob.news.yahoo.com/not...024346726.html
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    "Those which defend liberty, equality and fraternity, seem to us superior to those which accept tyranny, the subservience of women, social and ethnic hatred," he went on his speech, a copy of which was obtained by AFP.
    Controversal, ain't it. Thinking that those who don't stone rape victims to death feel kind of morally superior to those who, in fact, do. How dare he.

    Common sense might go to the lengths of suggesting that those who don't stone rape victims to death are in fact morally superior to those who do.

    So that sentiment caused outrage, didn't it?

    The truly outrageous part is that not everyone agrees with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muck View Post
    Controversal, ain't it. Thinking that those who don't stone rape victims to death feel kind of morally superior to those who, in fact, do. How dare he.

    Common sense might go to the lengths of suggesting that those who don't stone rape victims to death are in fact morally superior to those who do.

    So that sentiment caused outrage, didn't it?

    The truly outrageous part is that not everyone agrees with it.
    not everyone, but I do believe most people would think stone rape victims is wrong. what is so controversial? I don't get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kit View Post
    One civilization conquered the world and got everyone wearing cotton tee-shirts, denim jeans, and suits with neckties; the other civilizations didn't. Deal with it.

    However, I doubt we are going to convince Mr. Gueant to admit that the USA is superior to France.

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    Ah but some think that the current so called civilised world has actually advanced so much that it has degraded morally. Civilisation is not only about materialistic things.

    He is correct and obvious. However our civilisation depends on resources not found in our domain so obviously our civilisation might have a flaw. It seems the best way to defend it is on someone elses less civilised land.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plato View Post
    not everyone, but I do believe most people would think stone rape victims is wrong. what is so controversial? I don't get it.
    It's racist, can't you see that?

    At least that's what they tell us.

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