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    Quote Originally Posted by The Kaiser Chief View Post
    Supremacist talk...good for the soul if you enjoy it, bad for the brain if you believe in it
    so i guess backward societies are equal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roebuck View Post
    so i guess backward societies are equal?
    Please define what a backward society ??

    All that social darwinism is smelling bad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mordoror View Post
    Please define what a backward society ??

    All that social darwinism is smelling bad
    what?

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    That speech is like jerking off in front of oneīs mirror image. We should give a good example and then let others decide how they see us. Thereīs absolutely no value or content to such an allegation. Europe has its own problems and judging by the current debt crisis it is not really making a bella figura by now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roebuck View Post
    what?

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    Well again, what's a backward society ?
    What are the criterias that define a backward society ?
    What are the standards that say that a society is advanced or not ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mordoror View Post
    Well again, what's a backward society ?
    What are the criterias that define a backward society ?
    What are the standards that say that a society is advanced or not ?
    Husbands beat their wives. Shouldn't that include most of us?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mordoror View Post
    Well again, what's a backward society ?
    What are the criterias that define a backward society ?
    What are the standards that say that a society is advanced or not ?
    Democracy, due process, freedom of and from religion, rule of law, universal human rights. Probably more I'm forgetting. Societies that lack them are INFERIOR. There, I said it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_Wicked View Post
    Democracy, due process, freedom of and from religion, rule of law, universal human rights. Probably more I'm forgetting. Societies that lack them are INFERIOR. There, I said it.
    How much of what you just said is sustainable if the society lacks access to the modern things we are used to now and take for granted?

    Civilization (or civilisation) is a sometimes controversial term that has been used in several related ways. Primarily, the term has been used to refer to the material and instrumental side of human cultures that are complex in terms of technology, science, and division of labor. Such civilizations are generally hierarchical and urbanized. In a classical context, people were called "civilized" to set them apart from Barbarians, while in a modern-day context, "civilized peoples" have been contrasted with primitive peoples.
    There is a tendency to use the term in a less strict way, to mean approximately the same thing as "culture" and therefore, the term can more broadly refer to any important and clearly defined human society

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mordoror View Post
    Bad taste humor ??
    no It was not humor

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    He is right.

    The devil will be in the details though, i.e. who defines the value of said civilizations.

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    "Our values are best values!"?

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    Civilised countries eat the chocolate and backward countries supply the commodity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roebuck View Post
    so i guess backward societies are equal?
    This is political masturbation, nothing more and nothing less. If you are successful you donīt need to talk about this and to shove it done the throat of other people...thatīs called understatement...besides the only civilization being really successful at the moment are the Chinese...Kudos to that great culture btw...while we (the west) are falling behind economically, demographically, geo-politically and culturally. Thereīs no need and certainly no reason for such an attitude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Kaiser Chief View Post
    This is political masturbation, nothing more and nothing less. If you are successful you donīt need to talk about this and to shove it done the throat of other people...thatīs called understatement...besides the only civilization being really successful at the moment are the Chinese...Kudos to that great culture btw...while we (the west) are falling behind economically, demographically, geo-politically and culturally. Thereīs no need and certainly no reason for such an attitude.
    Success of civilization and its values are different things. Romans were destroyed by barbarians despite being most important civilization on earth at that time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyusu View Post
    Success of civilization and its values are different things. Romans were destroyed by barbarians despite being most important civilization on earth at that time.
    NO.

    Even the success of Rome and the peace required to build and maintain the system in Rome required steady supply of slaves.

    How much democracy is one going to have if the population lacks the necessities they were used to?

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