Cool story. Any other non-arguments you want to share with me, or are you conceding the point?Originally Posted by The Kaiser Chief
Not up me to prove it as i won't take 205 countries each containing between 1 and X model of society and rebuke point par point each one
Up to you to quote me a single society fitting 100 % of your description flawlessly
But, but, there was a book ?
Chariots of the Gods?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chariots_of_the_Gods%3F
No, I am not going to waste any further arguments here.
OMG just because I admit that China is on the rise doesn´t mean I am Chinese! How many years of schooling did you enjoy before you learned to switch on that computer?
Because those people comming to your country think exactly the same way, they just happen to have less money, that why they are leaving their great countries. But if you ask them, they regard their own culture as the most developed on the world. Doesn´t matter how their home actually looks like.
Look, Guéant may be allowed to tell some colossal bull****, but that still doesn't mean he can throw all sense of perspective through the window...
However, I doubt we are going to convince Mr. Gueant to admit that the USA is superior to France.
I assume the minister is pandering to his constituency and supporters or he's just a bigot? It always makes me feel uncomfortable when people talk about superiority of culture/civilization. Too much like Nazi Germany/Imperial Japan.
Now that's what I would call 'bigotry'. Universal human rights, the equality of men and women, the rule of law and the domination of the constitutional state even over religion need not to be justified and their preferability needs not to be explained to anybody. He who questions the superiority of cultures that embrace these values and build nations upon it, does also question their rightness and universal validity.
This is not 'racism', it's the truth.
I just had lunch so all the blood went to my stomach. Hence, I have no idea what you just said. Can you say that in plain English? Something I can understand without requiring too many brain cells, pleeeez.
I didn't say anything about flawlessly. "Flawless" is a meaningless term. Those that implemented more of these ideas or implemented them better are superior to those who didn't. So there ARE superior and inferior cultures. Period.
I dare say you understood my reply. Zeroing in on language instead of arguments could make you look like an ass, by the way.
The problem is that it falls through as soon as you start looking at what all the states embracing these values have actually done, and are still doing.
In country A, if you commit murder, theft, or another crime that hurts other people, you are arrested. Then, you are assigned a lawyer to defend you, and put in a court, where a judge attempts to review the evidence and testimony, deciding whether you really did commit the crime, and what is the appropriate punishment if you did. Your voice is allowed to be heard, and many mechanisms exist that at least try to make it all impartial (they don't always succeed, but nobody's perfect).
In country B, if your neighbor tells a policemen that you're homosexua1, the day after that your body is found hanging in the city square in a public execution.
Hey, both cultures are equal!
No it doesn't. No state has managed to follow them absolutely perfectly, because states are made up from people, and people are not perfect. But compared to other countries? You truly are pampered and ignorant if you honestly believe countries like France are no better than places like certain African and middle-eastern countries.
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