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    Wait, you Germans invaded us, we want to get fee subs too! [/sarcasm]

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    Quote Originally Posted by MeiJoa View Post
    To be fair, the submarine donations are a way to keep the shipyards and know-how alive while the german defense budget is shrinking and fewer 212 boats than planned are ordered.
    Hear, hear!

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    I guess it still is not appropriate to make ends meet with money from a People that are largely only alive because they escaped our irrational hatred.

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    The German subsidies in this deal are related more to stimulating the German sub industry/German-Israeli strategic relations....Not the Holocaust. The original 3 Sub deal way back in the 90's was related to Saddam Hussein as well, not the Holocaust. Israel probably couldn't pay for full price, especially with defense cuts looming. German industry benefits from discounted deal over no deal. See what happened to Israel's 2 planned Frigates.

    In any regard I'm glad the IDF has got a fleet of 6 advanced subs going, makes the navy not completely useless thanks to political BS. Imo they should restore the 2 remaining Gal's as well for 8, they'd still be fine for coastal defense duties and also good for training. Though of course that will never happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloo View Post
    Imo they should restore the 2 remaining Gal's as well for 8, they'd still be fine for coastal defense duties and also good for training. Though of course that will never happen.
    May the Israeli Supreme Navy Commander hear you.

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    These 206 will never only be good for coastal defense. They can travel quite a distance. They are little comparable to ants, evil things only with 100% capability to hunt down things a lot of times their own size.

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    The bottom line is: Isrealis have shuzpe and Germans do not.

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    First one got wheeled out today.
    Article in german.

    http://www.deutscher-marinebund.de/i...mnid=3859&page

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    Looks sexy! Thanks, Bleifuss.

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    Does somebody have some information's on the displacement of those improved Dolphins? thx in advance...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herman the II View Post
    Does somebody have some information's on the displacement of those improved Dolphins? thx in advance...
    2300 tonnes.

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    No biggie, we have too much money anyway. /irony

    There's nothing wrong with giving discounts, but strange thing is, that we only give these deals to Israel and other nations have to pay the full price.

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    One thing that never gets mentioned around those deals is the amount of Israeli tech transferred to Germany, let me tell you, it's a lot, from manufacturing techs to UAVs and everything in between.

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    Germans set to deliver advanced sub to Israel

    [*******#8F8F8F]By BENJAMIN WEINTHAL, JERUSALEM POST CORRESPONDENT[/COLOR]
    The 68-meter dolphin is the largest German vessel built since WWII

    (Ö)

    The delivery of the Super Dolphin to Israel is filled with some irony, largely because Iranís regime as of 2010 maintains a 4.5 percent stock control of ThyssenKrupp.


    http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Article.aspx?id=259401

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camera View Post
    Germans set to deliver advanced sub to Israel

    [*******#8f8f8f]By BENJAMIN WEINTHAL, JERUSALEM POST CORRESPONDENT[/COLOR]
    The 68-meter dolphin is the largest German vessel built since WWII

    (…)

    The delivery of the Super Dolphin to Israel is filled with some irony, largely because Iran’s regime as of 2010 maintains a 4.5 percent stock control of ThyssenKrupp.


    http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Article.aspx?id=259401
    These are going to be armed with cruise missiles with nuclear warheads? Why doesn't Israel get nuclear-powered submarines - they could go around the horn of Africa/and be permanently stationed in the Indian Ocean?

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