So Bush took away all these healthcare provisions when he took office? Please Link to them. I want to see where Bill Clinton had these Healthcare provisions and they were overturned under Bush. Otherwise your LyingOriginally Posted by Createdeemcee
Humm.. what version of reality are you living in? No one is against health care. This might be a bit hard for you to comprehend but the issue is one of Federalism and State rights.
Would be an argument IF it were not the fact that the government rule is unconstiutional.
I just want to point out that this is just another example of big goverment trying to take control. What gives elected officials the right to deny free speech on any matter.
If your religion doesn't like condoms, well that is your religion. I am just saying. If we had time to read the sh!tty so called health care bill, we might have know what was in it!
Do you even comprehend why the Archbishops are in lockstep over this? Has nothing to do with Bush, the GOP, or reptilians. Obamacare wants to mandate the churches to give contraception and abortion services through the archdioceses to their employees. Abortion is against one of the basic tenents of that religion, that life of the unborn is sacred. Why should they not fight against it? 40% of Unions (over 166 Union benefit funds) are exempt from Obamacare for hell of a lot less reasons, yet lets shove this at the church?
Imagine forcing you to do something
And you think that hes that much of a muslim that he wont make a provision that allows them to slip through the cracks, I guarantee you that he will compromise to suit whatever ethics are required by certain groups. Hes not forcing anything. Its part of the law as it was written as it was passed. He's not a republican, he knows how to compromise.
Again your emotional instability shows clearly through. I've never Said or Claimed Obama was a Muslim(Nor the he's Kenyan or Indonesian for your next limp attempt). So your pathetic impotent attempt at painting me as a religious Bigot wont work son.
He can agree or disagree with whatever he wants, but as a military clergyman it is not his job to take part in propagandistic actions against government decisions. His responsibility lies in looking after the troops morale and welfare and not ranting on about politics like some iranian ayatollah...
If he can't live with that, he can quit his job and join the tea party or whatever political group he likes.
Imagine some military high brass giving speeches to their troops about how obama screwed up the economy and the democrats trying to take away the people's right to bear arms each tuesday morning on their post. what would you think about that? It is after all within their doctine to protect freedom and democracy, isn't it?
Again your emotional instability shows clearly through. I've never Said or Claimed Obama was a Muslim(Nor the he's Kenyan or Indonesian for your next limp attempt). So your pathetic impotent attempt at painting me as a religious Bigot wont work son.
Your the EMO today lol. You have african american in your family. Would never do that, you havent shown me any reason to call you a racist or even point the finger to you in that manner. Settle down francis. I'm just speaking my piece. Man some of you guys.
Mission Statement:
The U.S. Army Chaplaincy provides religious support to America's Army while assisting commanders in ensuring the right of free exercise of religion for all Soldiers.
And he didnt go on about a screwed up economy which would be out of his brief if he were a Chaplain, nor did he talk about reptilians, chemtrails, or the illuminati, or any other silly example you want to give. But as a archbishop he has the right and duty to speak up against attacks on his religion. Its an American thing, you wouldnt understand.
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He's not a member of the military.
You indeed did try to insinuate that I believe him to be Muslim, and anyone honest here knows I have always Maintained he was Native US Born, not Kenyan, not Indonesian, not Muslim. so in fact you arent even honest from post to post here.
Facts... what does it matter?
Nice one!
The reason I posted the article was the choice words used by the archbishop to the troops. Could have said "your obligations to family values should not change despite recent new laws .....".
Oh yes, It's all Bush''s fault.
Its Bush's fault that Obama passed a multi-trillion dollar "stimulus package" that has done nothing but add further to the dept.
Its Bush's fault that the ATF was giving automatic weapons to the drug cartels that were then used to kill federal agents.
Its Bush's fault that Obama now wants us to pull out of Afghanistan immediately even though he claimed that this was a war we needed to win.
And its certainly Bush's fault that a healthcare bill was passed that is bloated, costly, and infringes on people's rights by not only forcing them to buy premium health insurance some may not be able to afford but now forces religious institutions to compromise their beliefs in the name of the government
Again, you are a pathetic piece of rat ****, and this is coming from someone who actually voted for Obama in the last election. You don't want to man up to the fact that this administration has been screwing up badly but still pass the buck on the previous administration when it doesn't even have any involvement in the matter at hand. In other words, you view Bush as your private Goldstein: a demonic scapegoat that you can conveniently blame all your troubles on whenever it looks like Big Brother Obama is not the perfect machine you've convinced yourself he is back in 2008. The fact of the matter is that while the Bush administration has screwed a lot, we are well beyond the point of blaming everything on the past instead of actually trying to change the current situation we are in.
I voted for Obama because I thought he was going to be departure from the decades of partisan hacks we've been inflicted with from both political parties. I thought he was going to be a level headed pragmatist that was going to work in the interests of his constituents (i.e. the American people) first regardless of any political label. What I got instead is an incompetent partisan hack with a cult of personality that you'd except from dictatorships. The healthcare bill is proof of this; its a badly written, unpopular, and as we are discovering an unconstitutional mess that was forced into law against the wishes of the American people just so Obama and his cronies can check the box that they "reformed" healthcare when all they've done is make it worse in both the short and long term. Bush had nothing to do with this. This was a bill enacted and pushed into law solely by the Democrats and they are solely to blame for its consequences, not an elder statesman who hasn't had any influence over American policy in years.
Who was controlling things between 2006 and 2008? Who had no opposition between 2008 and 2010? What was the result? Exhibit A:
Let's look a little further ahead and see what The One did for us:
I don't understand either - how is a regulation that health plans have to cover contraception/sterilization attacking his religion? Nobody is even forced to use those things, if you don't believe in condoms, or whatever, Obama isn't making you. Even if you're not down with contraception, to claim that this is somehow “a blow to a freedom that you have fought to defend and for which you have seen your buddies fall in battle” is outrageous hyperbole at the least.
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