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    Default Washington signs marriage equality bill into law

    http://www.king5.com/news/cities/oly...139211664.html

    Good to hear, but I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if this goes to a vote this fall.

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    I am not a pro or anti gay marriage person, but this should have been put to a vote before the citizens before just pencil whipped into law. Now the King county Lawyers will be making hand over fist with all the legal rebuttals and such. Washington State has been under Democratic rule for far too long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shermbodius View Post
    I am not a pro or anti gay marriage person, but this should have been put to a vote before the citizens before just pencil whipped into law.
    I've always been pro-gay marriage, and while I appreciate our legislatures' forwardness and eagerness to get this through, I can't help but agree with you on that. Even then, I don't think the outcome would be much different, if only for a narrow yes/no margin. But on the other hand, I do like the forwardness that this happened within the Washington state government.
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    Why should this, in comparison to any other issue, have been put to a referendum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shermbodius View Post
    I am not a pro or anti gay marriage person, but this should have been put to a vote before the citizens.
    Why should this, in comparison to any other issue, have been put to a referendum?
    Do you think the Civil Rights Act would've passed a vote before the citizens in 1965?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ordie View Post
    Do you think the Civil Rights Act would've passed a vote before the citizens in 1965?
    I still think that as a Representative Republic, Washingtonians should have had there say. I don't know, wasn't alive at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zorro C9 View Post
    Why should this, in comparison to any other issue, have been put to a referendum?
    It is indeed perhaps an excellent example of why a majority vote might not be democratic, but majority tyranny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarig View Post
    It is indeed perhaps an excellent example of why a majority vote might not be democratic, but majority tyranny.
    Who's the arbiter that decides when which is which? What happens when the People vote for something other than what the arbiter desires? Does the arbiter send the People back to the polls to keep voting until they get it right? Does the arbiter simply dispose of the undesirable election results and lay down his decree?

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    Quote Originally Posted by szr View Post
    Who's the arbiter that decides when which is which?
    The Judicial system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ordie View Post
    The Judicial system.
    Let's see if you still believe that the next time the Supreme Court is stacked with the SCJ nominees of a Republican administration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shermbodius View Post
    I am not a pro or anti gay marriage person, but this should have been put to a vote before the citizens before just pencil whipped into law. Now the King county Lawyers will be making hand over fist with all the legal rebuttals and such. Washington State has been under Democratic rule for far too long.
    I think personally it's one of those issues for individual states to decide in whatever manner they see fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by szr View Post
    Let's see if you still believe that the next time the Supreme Court is stacked with the SCJ nominees of a Republican administration.
    I think SCJ are more apolitical the longer they serve in that capacity.
    For example, GOP President Ford nominee, John Paul Stevens, was considered on the liberal side of the court. Sandra Day O'Connor and Anthony Kennedy, both Reagan nominees, have been the swing vote.

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