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    Quote Originally Posted by EdisonTrent View Post
    Love that comic. We seem to have lion fetish

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    Quote Originally Posted by custodes View Post
    Bhuddism and Hinduism have gods. Unitarianism is either about GOD or just a damn community meeting. If there is no God it is not a religion. Saying it does not make it true. You are wrong.
    I'm late to the party, but I'm not wrong - you should look into those religions yourself. The thing you don't see is that there isn't just one sort of Bhuddism, or Hinduism, there are many - with different creation myths, different takes on life, etc.

    If
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    is the absence of belief in gods, then many Buddhists are, indeed, atheists.Buddhism is not about either believing or not believing in God or gods. Rather, the historical Buddha taught that believing in gods was not useful for those seeking to realize enlightenment. In other words, God is unnecessary in Buddhism. For this reason, Buddhism is more accurately called nontheistic than atheistic.
    http://buddhism.about.com/od/basicbu...dhaatheism.htm

    Most people regard Hinduism as polytheistic - an idea which is both true and false. It is true that Hinduism has polytheitic elements, but it also as monotheistic and atheistic elements as well. It is diffiicult to describe, but polytheism is simply one way for a person to look at Hinduism. The variety of deities provides people with a variety of ways to fulfill their spiritual needs. Some go further and regard all of the deities as merely aspects of a few, or perhaps of just one deity. Some fo further yet and regard it all as manifestations of a single, impersonal ground of being - not theistic at all. In the end, Hinduism is what one makes of it.
    http://atheism.about.com/library/glo...f_hinduism.htm

    As for Unitarians - they explicitly welcome atheist and agnostic members, accepting and valuing all worldviews is sort of what Unitarianism is about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toddy1 View Post
    And your point is?

    The symbology was to reference them as "poor" knights hence they had to share the horse
    Sharing horses a little too often is what got them shut down.

    I kid, I kid, I know they were set up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toddy1 View Post
    Hahaha that one is way worse than just christian, for the Knight Templars symbolism (and a LOT of other traditions) came directly from SS and Waffen-SS as a lot signed up in the Foreign Legion after WWII, (2e REP, 2nd Foreign Airborne Regiment).

    I mean it's good that the regiment does not deny it's past but that pic better not fall into the hand of the traditional medias...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bidoul33t View Post
    Hahaha that one is way worse than just christian, for the Knight Templars symbolism (and a LOT of other traditions) came directly from SS and Waffen-SS as a lot signed up in the Foreign Legion after WWII, (2e REP, 2nd Foreign Airborne Regiment).

    I mean it's good that the regiment does not deny it's past but that pic better not fall into the hand of the traditional medias...
    I've NEVER seen a Waffen-SS unit using a Knights Templar as its insignia, nor using Latin mottos. Devils Guard was a Novel not reality

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    Yeah. The Knights Templar symbolism came from the Knights Templars. Duh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LineDoggie View Post
    I've NEVER seen a Waffen-SS unit using a Knights Templar as its insignia, nor using Latin mottos. Devils Guard was a Novel not reality
    Sorry it's not SS it's Vichy France, my bad (the image of the Templar defending Christianity and European purity is a classic fascist symbol, despite the fact they were bat**** insane Christians talebans who failed pretty much everything they tried while rampaging and ended up burned for heresy).

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    original SS march song




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    Again it's not a secret, it's true that Devil guard is a novel as there was never full German units in the Legion but it's based on the fact that a lot of Germans veterans and French who served under the Nazis (either in the LVF or in the Milice) found "redemption" by joining the Legion.


    Nobody denies it, it's also part of what make the Legion great, it doesn't matter where you come from when you've got nowhere else to go you get a chance to start anew.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Ernie View Post
    Saddening! What will be next? Dollars and coins ?
    Well, given that the US got on nicely for 75% of its history (1776 - 1957) without reference to god or gods on the currency, why not? This mythologizing and tendency to believe that things are as they've always been is bizarre to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha_Mustang View Post
    I don't say " under God" when I say the pledge of allegiance. Why? Because I don;t believe in God. But I sure as fvck believe in America. I personally feel like if I say one thing untrue, it erodes the integrity of the rest of the Pledge.

    Besides. "Under God" was added in 1954. It sure as hell wasn't in the original, nor do I feel that the pledge was intended as a veild form of worship. If you want to pledge your allegiance to whatever deity you worship, go to your church or your temple, and leave it out of my national pride, thank you very much.
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    not that Im defending the historical Templars, but just because Nazis used them in their symbology, doesnt retro-actively degrade the Templars themselves. Nazis used everything from Spartans to Roman legions in order to portray themselves as 'defenders' of western civilization. Every nutjob from Hitler to that Breivik idiot used historical symbols for their own agendas.

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    Like the dumbass Scout Snipers using SS runes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kamazz View Post
    not that Im defending the historical Templars, but just because Nazis used them in their symbology, doesnt retro-actively degrade the Templars themselves. Nazis used everything from Spartans to Roman legions in order to portray themselves as 'defenders' of western civilization. Every nutjob from Hitler to that Breivik idiot used historical symbols for their own agendas.
    True but in that specific case that symbolism wasn't really used before there is an historical link between the two.
    But we digress.

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