Reply With QuoteGore is a ranting Douche and was eradicated from any other possibility of public office 4 years ago. He is a goner, chalk up another one Dems.
Kerry is next, and HE will be the key factor in his own demise. Watch.
Could Gore have done a better job ?
So could Gore have done a better job then Bush ?
prob didnt take much hard work to figure out Al-Qaida was behind 9/11 and couldnt have been too hard for Bush to point at A-stan on the map and say "bomb this" .
How about Iraq ? anybody know what Gores position was on WMDs and attacking Iraq was ? .
and this isnt some Bush bashing thread , so lets keep it clean and over the belt :P
Gore is a ranting Douche and was eradicated from any other possibility of public office 4 years ago. He is a goner, chalk up another one Dems.
Kerry is next, and HE will be the key factor in his own demise. Watch.
So now you disrespect a former Vice President of the United States who volunteered for service in the US Army?Gore is a ranting Douche and was eradicated from any other possibility of public office 4 years ago. He is a goner, chalk up another one Dems.
Kerry is next, and HE will be the key factor in his own demise. Watch.
But you said that you respected those who serve and have served?
Doesn't sound like it.....
That's a pretty good, if not obvious quesiton. I don't see how he could not have responded militarily so I think that A-stan would hvae gone down more or less as it did - war by proxy with NA and SF on ground while we rained death from above. Iraq on the other hand probably would not have happened - so depending on your viewpoints he is better or worse in that respect. Irrespecitve of whether he would have invaded Iraq, I don't think Gore would have squandered the enormous amount of international good-will and support post 9-11 in the way that Bush has. International Relations would have been handled very differently in the absence of Wolfowitz, Rummy, and Rice, no doubt about it. Personally I think that would have been a good thing.
I wonder if Gore would have ignored all the pre-9/11 warnings about an imminent Al Qaeda attack as Bush did? Maybe he would have notified the airlines? I wonder if Gore would have gone after Bin Laden BEFORE 9/11?
Interesting about Iraq, would he have invaded? Iraq was planned during Clinton's administration by PNAC, Clinton just didn't want to go through with it, Gore might have.
All speculation, but one thing is sure, as n4292936 said, Gore would not have isolated us the way Bush did. I think that isolationism was intentional by Bush, not just his arrogant attitude. Bush didn't want to do it under the UN, he wanted the US to be in charge. I'm not going to go into all the reasons why, and most of you wouldn't believe them anyway.
Go back to your Kerry and Michael Moore bashing, while Rome burns.
Well Gore and Clinton ignored the USS Cole. And the first attack on the WTC. They only launched a few cruise missile at some abandoned camps after the two embassy bombings.
So I would say Gore wouldn't have been able to stop 9/11 either. And I'm damn glad we had George W Bush as president after 9/11.
I don't see him doing anything different that Bush on A-stan. I think 9/11 would have still happened under his watch. Even with the "warnings" I don't see him doing anything different. Iraq would not have happened nor would many other events. The GWOT would not be a reality either.
We had plenty of cooperation for A-stan. Your point is Iraq and I'll concede that fact. But as I said above I don't see us in Iraq with Gore as "the man".Originally Posted by OB
Oh and I think (ahhhhhhhh) I agree with you on this point. Must be a Sunday.
He may not have wanted to do it under the UN but we couldn't have anyways with France Russia and Germany saying they would "veto" any resolution authorizing force.
Like Bush said "The United Nations failed to fulfil it's resonsibilities, so now we will." Or something to that extent.
Re: Could Gore have done a better job ?
A fairer question would have been what do you think Gore would have done different?
9/11 still would have happened. The Clinton admin didn't believe the AQ threat severe enough to warrant a massive effort yet and I feel that would have carried over to Gore too.
There's a strong probability that DOD command would have been more political minded, wasting time covering its and kissing others arses leading to a bloody mess in Afghanistan but eventually we'd still end up with the same outcome. There was a proposed AQ elimination in place since Clinton only the desire to act was needed.
Iraq: I doubt an invasion would have occurred with Gore only cranking up bombing and trying harder to isolate Saddam.
Gore wouldnt have done jack ****... he would have bent over backwards to try and "negotiate" with Osama Bin Laden... he would have ignored the problem and hoped it went away like he did as Vice president.
Had our intelligence been able to get dates, times and method of attack that the terrorists would have used, he could have notified the airlines. But the fact of the matter is, airport security as a whole was not prepared to deal with such a determined enemy. Bags wre NOT being screened with EDS. Security guards were 60 year old 300 pound men making minimum wage. Even if they had been notified, i doubt the airlines or airports would have done much about it.Maybe he would have notified the airlines?
The fact of the matter is, if our intelligence uncovered the plot in detail, we probably would have stopped the people before they got to the operational phase, so the airlines wouldnt need to be notified.
Our intelligence knew something was comming, but as its been said time and time again, there was really no way to tell what, when and where.
"We need national resolve and unity, not weakness and division when we're involved engaged in an action against someone like Saddam Hussein... If you allow someone like Saddam Hussein to get nuclear weapons, ballistic missiles, chemical weapons, biological weapons, how many people is he going to kill with such weapons?"
-Al Gore, 1998"President Bush has exposed Americans abroad and Americans in every town and city to a greater danger of attacks by terrorists because of his arrogance, willfulness, and bungling at stirring up hornets nests that pose no threat whatsoever to us..."
-Al Gore, 2004
That's ridiculous. Any responsible politician who wanted to get re-elected would have done something.
"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him."
- G.W. Bush, 9/13/01"I want justice...There's an old poster out West, as I recall, that said, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive,'"
- G.W. Bush, 9/17/01, UPI"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02
"I am truly not that concerned about him."
- G.W. Bush, repsonding to a question about bin Laden's whereabouts,
3/13/02 (The New American, 4/8/02)
yea... the word "Our" and "I" aren't the same... go figure.
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