Reply With QuoteHa! China has absolutely ZERO claim to any region of the Arctic.
I was entertained by this. Good find. Poor China.
I think they should just stick to turning the Pacific into their private lake for now
China's Arctic Powerplay
It seems everyone loves talking about the South China Sea and other places when it comes to China's growing military power. I think the arctic is where all the major new resourse finds are going to be. It seems China is already moving in that direction. I wonder if the US is going to also try and muscle in on such resources.
http://the-diplomat.com/flashpoints-...tic-powerplay/
Ha! China has absolutely ZERO claim to any region of the Arctic.
I was entertained by this. Good find. Poor China.
I think they should just stick to turning the Pacific into their private lake for now
I think China will make a play for the resources there.
Depends what you mean by play, if you mean try to gain direct control over resources in that area then they have as much chance as polar bears do after some serious Global Warming. On the other hand if you mean try and get a stake in those claims and have influence over some of the key partners, sure there's a chance and Canada's probably their best chance in that due to the strength of Canadian claims and fairly good relations between the two, particularly in comparison to how the US and Russia would feel over this.
Continue to read my friends. This issue is more significant than meets the eye. The benefits, from this vast cold and largely uninhabitable region, include both the economic and the political; and as such will hold global attention, especially when the major powers become more sensitive to its implications, as their respective states develop greater power in pursuit of the greater gain.
I think a everyone in Asia is seeking a more direct sea route to the Atlantic.
Indian Ocean / Red Sea presents too many risks.
Panama Canal is a choke point.
What they don't understand is the Bearing Sea is unforgiving and dangerous.
If "the world" can't stop a country like Syria from killing civilians, what type of action would seriously stop China from doing whatever they want in the Arctic. Although completely different examples, International law violations aren't going to stop China from doing whatever they want.... and who would actually sanction them for something considering their economic influence.
What exactly do you think China can "do" in the Arctic? They can use the international or internal waterways, in accordance with international law or approval of the host nation. They can invest in economic endeavours in the region.Originally Posted by Stealthmode4
But, every Arctic nation is a member of NATO except Russia. Any military adventure would be, challenging, for China
I agree, I guess it would be much more easy to engage economic endeavors or isolated military "adventures" with actionable resolution.
Syria is worthless economically and is of minor strategic importance for most. Arctic is a goldmine waiting to happen.
If China sticks it's nose in the Arctic with some redicolous claims, it'll be a 5 nation gang rape with no Vaseline, as Arctic nations will take a pause from being at each other's throats and shift their attention to an unwelcome guest. Basically, don't fvck with other people's energy piggy bank for the next century.
Those are completely different things. If China goes into the Arctic (which imo is a pipe-dream anyway), they are treading on the toes of NATO and Russia. This would be a very different ball game compared to Assad shelling a couple of villages. China plays some games in the South China sea with their harassment of other countries' fishing vessels and such, but they probably dont want to be trying that type of sh|t in the Arctic.
Yeah, which will inevitably be brutal and after that still end up leading towards the Canadian northwest passage over which there's been some tussling between the US and Canada. A deal to help support a Chinese presence in exchange for supporting the Canadian claim over that passage might be possible.
Yeah they're completely different examples because one depends on international law to encourage people to action ( ha! ) the other depends on a number of fairly powerful nations working in their own best interest to keep China out. Guess which one the international community is good at.
On the plus side China doing stupid useless things in the Artic might help bridge the gap between NATO and Russia and foster a better relationship that could create the new foundation for peace for a century+ So sure China try something?
Well apparently recently, a desire for Russia to be "invited" to NATO was made apparent by Putin. Futhermore an arctic Chinese threat would encourage NATO and Russia to foster closer ties, which i hope would draw Russia away far away from China and deeply integrate it into Western defence arrangements
Yeah, which will inevitably be brutal and after that still end up leading towards the Canadian northwest passage over which there's been some tussling between the US and Canada. A deal to help support a Chinese presence in exchange for supporting the Canadian claim over that passage might be possible.I am thinking of this hypothetical situation as being the chance for Canada to, convince the Americans to change their stance on the NWP, and align it with ours
Everything went better then expectedWell apparently recently, a desire for Russia to be "invited" to NATO was made apparent by Putin. Futhermore an arctic Chinese threat would encourage NATO and Russia to foster closer ties, which i hope would draw Russia away far away from China and deeply integrate it into Western defence arrangements
From our shared Canadian perspective Chinese efforts in this field may not be such a bad thing given the two even slightly possible options.
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