4 year old draws picture of father with a gun, dad arrested on gun charges

[wwjs]

IMO if someone tells policeman that he saw a guy carrying a gun in public (Illinois), then the policeman will probably have to search him. If kid draws his dad killing people, the teacher will most likely report it and have his dad questioned. IDK about gun laws in Canada, but if rifles are prohibited (cities, etc) and a kid draws his dad holding one, then authorities may also have a good reason to talk, not arrest​ someone. Obviously you can't treat everything 4 yo kid says as truth, but you can't also consider everything as bs

[Fargin]

If they believe an unsecured firearm was within arms reach of a child in the home, then it would be a threat to the kids safety.

[Spartan10k]

If they believe an unsecured firearm was within arms reach of a child in the home, then it would be a threat to the kids safety.

Then they must be psychic or something because there's no way you can make that assumption from the drawings or imagination of a 4 year old.

[KillerBD]

****, I hope no one finds the pictures I drew back in the 2nd grade of aliens destroying the Earth... What is the sentence for conspiring to destroy the planet? Life, 5 years, or just 2 with good behavior I hope... Retarded liberals, gotta luv 'em.

What do they expect, children should only draw wonderful pictures of flowers, sunshine, puppies, and hearts all day long? ****ing pussies, life is though, stop making these kids weak and timid. What's going to happen years down the road when the apocalypse strikes and I'm too old to fully fight it and have to depend on this puny new generation of pseudo-fighters to shoot the cannibals, thugs, bandits, and zombie hordes in the head... rant, rant, rant... BA-humbug!

[Bacon]

Under US law most searches of residences, conveyances, etc. require a search warrant issued by a detached magistrate upon the presentation of facts by the affiant. The presentation of facts should equal probable cause (a level of proof above reasonable suspicion but below a preponderance of evidence). However, there exceptions where LE can conduct a search based on exigent circumstances; one of those is a public safety emergency. The standard example being an officer has PC to believe a bomb is in a location that would normally require a SW for him to enter but because of the exigency of the impending detonation they enter and find the bomb w/o first securing a warrant.

Yeah pretty much the same here. We also have exigent circumstances as well. And depending on department policy you can also conduct consent searches.

[Migs]

I remember doodling a gun on my notebook in 4th grade..had my parents called in for a teacher/parent meeting with me about how it wasn't ok. I literally went "hurrdurp lol, ok." and my dad walked away pissed the school called them in for such a bull**** reason.

[Fargin]

Then they must be psychic or something because there's no way you can make that assumption from the drawings or immatination of a 4 year old.

I assumed the kid drew a man holding a gun. I assume the teacher noticed a girl drawing a gun, was currious about the drawing and durring the conversation about the drawing, concerns were raised. I assume the school didn't believe the kid was joking, lying or exaggerating and therefor had to take her claim that her dad stored an unsecured real handgun seriously. That they detained the parents and children for safety reasons and durring the interview with child services, it maybe was revealed that it was just a toy after all, which a search then confirmed and the family released.

[Bacon]

I remember doodling a gun on my notebook in 4th grade..had my parents called in for a teacher/parent meeting with me about how it wasn't ok. I literally went "hurrdurp lol, ok." and my dad walked away pissed the school called them in for such a bull**** reason.

That reminds me, I think I was around the same grade and I remember a kid got in trouble because he was holding a mini kitkat bar like a gun and pointed it at a teacher. The teacher was a huuuge b!tch though.

[liberal cl]

If they believe an unsecured firearm was within arms reach of a child in the home, then it would be a threat to the kids safety.

That would, at the very most, justify a search, but how do you justify him being arrested and strip searched?

The man had no criminal record. Police could have questioned him about any guns in his possession, he would have shown them the toy, and that should have been the end of it.

[LongShot]

Wow....I stabbed a kid with an exacto knife and only got suspended.....*wait for it*.............................................................








In California.

[Fargin]

That would, at the very most, justify a search, but how do you justify him being arrested and strip searched?

The man had no criminal record. Police could have questioned him about any guns in his possession, he would have shown them the toy, and that should have been the end of it.

If you're going to detain someone and search their household for a handgun, wouldn't you search him too?

He had prior assault charges, don't know about convictions.

[Migs]

That reminds me, I think I was around the same grade and I remember a kid got in trouble because he was holding a mini kitkat bar like a gun and pointed it at a teacher. The teacher was a huuuge b!tch though.

I remember us punching the Purell dispenser right by the door, eventually it ate away at the floor tile.
My pregnant b1tch 7th grade teacher slipped and fell because of it, lulz were had..later of course.

[Bacon]

If you're going to detain someone and search their household for a handgun, wouldn't you search him too?

He had prior assault charges, don't know about convictions.

Detain and arrest are two different things.

[Spartan10k]

I assumed the kid drew a man holding a gun. I assume the teacher noticed a girl drawing a gun, was currious about the drawing and durring the conversation about the drawing, concerns were raised. I assume the school didn't believe the kid was joking, lying or exaggerating and therefor had to take her claim that her dad stored an unsecured real handgun seriously. That they detained the parents and children for safety reasons and durring the interview with child services, it maybe was revealed that it was just a toy after all, which a search then confirmed and the family released.

Unless there was something more substantial than:

They also said comments by Sansone's daughter, Neaveh, that the man holding the gun in the picture was her dad and "he uses it to shoot bad guys and monsters," was concerning

then they had no reason to do what they did. And thats all I'll say cause I ain't gonna repeat stuff other people (mods included) have already said.

[Fargin]

But you'd still search him right?

Unless there was something more substantial than:

"During questioning, Thaler said the child, along with her siblings, provided police with a "detailed description" of a gun that was stored in the home and was accessed by the children."