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    If observers had any doubts about the failure of the U.S. counterinsurgency strategy in Afghanistan, the past several days should have put them to rest. Since Feb. 21, anti-U.S. protests have erupted in virtually every major Afghan city over the revelation that American personnel had burned Qurans at Bagram Airfield, the largest U.S. installation in the country. The demonstrations have at times turned violent, claiming the lives of at least seven Afghans. This wave of protest is just the latest example of how the United States has botched its attempt to win "hearts and minds" in Afghanistan, and another indicator that its war effort is heading toward failure.

    But that's not the message you would hear from U.S. officials. To hear them tell it, the United States has already taken action to prevent such shocking displays of cultural insensitivity from happening again. "When we learned of these actions, we immediately intervened and stopped them," U.S. General John R. Allen, the commander of the international force in Afghanistan, said in his apology. "We are thoroughly investigating the incident and we are taking steps to ensure this does not ever happen again."

    If this episode sounds familiar, it should.
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    http://www.foreignpolicy.com/article...th_the_squeeze

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chimera View Post

    I say Forsake the Afghan's.

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    Who is Doug Wissing and what are his qualifications if any?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LineDoggie View Post
    Who is Doug Wissing and what are his qualifications if any?
    http://douglaswissing.com/biography/

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    It has been a while now - and I've been wondering why we remain in Afghanistan?

    If the Taliban will overthrow the current Afghan government - then the government is obviously not doing its job to secure the legitimacy and representing the collective interests of the people there. And if that is the case - why are we propping these dudes whose personal wealth have increased dramatically since 2002?

    Al Qaeda's threat to us is not going to originate from back country Afghanistan - where the majority the population can't even read the Quran let alone travel to the United States.

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    Call me paranoid, but I sense Pakistan's hand in this

    They're laying the ground for their return via the Taliban to Afghanistan.

    Im sure if we leaned on the ISI, these protests would stop.

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    Is Afghanistan really relevant now? Post-Afghan war the Pakistani ports and oil line might become the strategic foci. Might be a bit early to kiss off the ISI and Pak military.

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    A stable Afghanistan is needed for the mining and resource extraction that is the foundation of the foreign policy. In addition, the oil pipeline deal has to go through and you cannot protect a pipeline with endless attacks. Foreign policy though the use of military action is not always a good idea....

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    Quote Originally Posted by IconOfEvi View Post
    Call me paranoid, but I sense Pakistan's hand in this

    They're laying the ground for their return via the Taliban to Afghanistan.

    Im sure if we leaned on the ISI, these protests would stop.
    That was my thinking as well when I first heard of it. It has Pakistan's crooked fingers all over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IconOfEvi View Post
    Call me paranoid, but I sense Pakistan's hand in this

    They're laying the ground for their return via the Taliban to Afghanistan.

    Im sure if we leaned on the ISI, these protests would stop.

    I would consider a far better course of action ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by HK in AK View Post
    A stable Afghanistan is needed for the mining and resource extraction that is the foundation of the foreign policy. In addition, the oil pipeline deal has to go through and you cannot protect a pipeline with endless attacks. Foreign policy though the use of military action is not always a good idea....
    I thought the oile pipeline went the way of **** Cheney? Is it still a real intention?

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