Reply With QuoteWhat are you, 12 or something? You do make the Internet stupid.Originally Posted by MUSHROOM123
Indonesia? Turkey? I don't know about Indonesia,but about Turkey-under Erdogan they don't really have a democracy...
What are you, 12 or something? You do make the Internet stupid.
I'm not going to judge him like that, but I would appreciate if you could ask him to elaborate on what you disagree with, specificly and go from there....Or if you understand him, please enlighten him with your point of view, while you have this opportunity, rather than asking him his age (which isnt the same as maturity BTW), and insulting him. I'm personally not sure where he is going with his statements, but you seem to be. (I'm guessing). Thank you.
Last edited by Sideline; 03-06-2012 at 06:53 AM. Reason: always at least spelling, clarification for communication
well said Sideline. Disagreements aren't stupidity.
Yes exactly, but to also make an observation, People around here usually recieve their custom user titles for a good reason. But YOU got the point, thanks.
I am here for almost 6 years and didn't got one
Seniority comes with some knowledge on survivability. lol
I'm 23 and talk on the issue...you don't have what to say ,so you are trying to insult me. I'm wrong about Turkey(that i said that it's not a democracy)? If you think that i'm wrong say why. Here are few reports about the Turkish "democracy" and you can judge if it's a democracy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index
According to Wikipedia it has an "Hybrid regime". It's not a democracy,but not a dictatorship like Iran or Jordan or Yeman,etc....you can say that Wikipedia is not reliable ,but i think it is...
2.http://www.democracyweb.org/new-map/
According to this site Turkey is "partly free" with
Political Rights:3
Civil Liberties:3
According to these sites and others Turkey is not a real democracy,but also not a dictatorship like most of the Muslim countries. She is in the middle...
hello mushroom
Last edited by ggk; 03-06-2012 at 07:52 AM. Reason: by the way sideline ... i have double title custom and uncustom
LOL..why are you trolling?
indonesia have a very large muslims population, although they dont call them selves as an Islamic Nation.. they do practice Democracy very seriously.
"Indonesia? Turkey? I don't know about Indonesia,but about Turkey-under Erdogan they don't really have a democracy"
a turkey members can answer that but last i check if turkey doesnt have democracy their army will run amok and beat the crap out of the politician responsible
also there is Malaysia which also have a huge number of Muslim population and plus recently they call them selves as Islamic Nation although Malaysia constitution says Malaysia are actually a secular states. They also take their democracy seriously
on the contrary, evidence mounts of AQ involvement, and any moral right of the Opposition in Libya has long since become a negative number.
Syria is following the same recipe. Looking at the casualty figures for Libya (reported as up to 30,000), has it been worth it? The ongoing human rights abuses look like an improvement worthy of this?
http://theintelhub.com/2012/02/13/ec...-for-uprising/Ayman al-Zawahiri, widely regarded as al Qaeda’s current number one figure, has called upon the rebels in Syria – who already have strong ties to the West – to continue their campaign against one of the few people on earth continuing to oppose Western hegemony.A common misconception amongst the Western public is that if you seek to expose the corruption and highly duplicitous nature of the West’s approach to these so-called revolutions, you somehow agree with or are defending the target of the uprising.
Most of the Muslim countries aren't democracies.
Thanks for the input, much appreciated. I must tell you only for clarification, I personally do not think of Indonesia when I think of Muslim 'problems', because they don't seem to be a problem at all. I am mainly concerned with the MAIN two power 'pulpits' in the middle east, and what they preach to the masses (the truely devoted masses that do what is directed by Islam in order to be 'good' muslims...it is serious). But unfortunally, these two 'powers' use their religion to bind their people and do despicable acts to one another, all in a effort to gain influence/territory/land/countrys. It's not holy (to me), and then I here a muslim here, and a muslim there, telling how it goes against the peaceful Koran. Really it should be THESE Islamic power bases that should be preaching it to the Masses (instead of incitement), and not a few random muslims (relatively speaking), but instead they preach hate with rigidity against non-muslims, and incite the masses. Saudi Arabia is (to me) like it or not, the origin of Islam, originating in SA by mostly Arabs of the time, and they have all the credentials (relative). Ironically enough, it seems to me the Saudi's are the worst when it comes to perverting their own religion (to me), they are dictators that use their rigid translation of the Koran to bind their people. For these reasons, I think the (Arabs)/SA should be the ones to reflect on any 'change' of Islam. Places like Indonesia for example only recieved Islam, they didnt 'invent' it.......and Iran is just an Islamic fraud/mutiny/revolution/rebellion, with no credentials, made of only ordinary people (we all are) who created a council and decided that they should preside on it. I think Iran's 'Islamic power' to preach to the muslim masses, is only a hinderance to any kind of 'Islamic growth'. Simply because you cant have a dog fight with only one dog. (not calling anyone a dog). Thanks again.
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