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    Quote Originally Posted by IconOfEvi View Post
    Somehow I dont think you got the point of what he was saying
    Nope, you are the one who didn't get what I said. You'll never will .

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    Why you hate Westerners so much??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arbody View Post
    Nope, you are the one who didn't get what I said. You'll never will .
    Trust me, I know what you said. With your mindset, there was no ambiguity

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    Well it's still, as the title says, at planning stage. Mankind needs dreams, I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IconOfEvi View Post
    If they set any bases on Phobos or Deimos, please tell them not experiment with the excavated teleporter technology!
    True dat. We all know how that ends out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOrangeMan View Post
    True dat. We all know how that ends out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sepheronx View Post
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    Putin ordered to install the teleporter in his training room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mackie View Post
    How about invest in the infrastructure on earth before build one on the moon?
    Just a proposal.
    ROSKOSMOS's budget ~120bln. rur.
    Moscow's(only for that city) spendings for roads, without other infrastructure, ~70bln.rur.
    As about investments in this area we need first of all to increase efficiency of investments, and only after their quantity. It will grow every next year though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Miecznik View Post
    Space aint a good buisness, how much return there is for each dollar invested ? 10, 20 cents ?

    As for me, Russia is Poland with three and half times more population. For three and half times bigger Poland it would't make sense to have space program, as we would have better ways to invest public money, with higher return wer dollar invested. Russia has a lot to do in order to get economy running on first world standart, otherwise they will be uncompetetive.

    I guess they understand it in Kremlin, thet they cant have "super space program", and because they cant say it to population. They prduce those kind of "controlled leaks" to satisfy population, while not realizing those plans.
    There is not only short-term returning of money which will be spent on space programs.
    There are also long-term effects, such as investments in new materials, medicine, chemistry, physics and so on which could, and with high possibility would bring much more necessary effects than just some extra public spendings on roads for example.

    As about 2030. Well, maybe some Russkies will walk there till that time, but about base-I doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miecznik View Post
    Space aint a good buisness, how much return there is for each dollar invested ? 10, 20 cents ?

    As for me, Russia is Poland with three and half times more population. For three and half times bigger Poland it would't make sense to have space program, as we would have better ways to invest public money, with higher return wer dollar invested. Russia has a lot to do in order to get economy running on first world standart, otherwise they will be uncompetetive.

    I guess they understand it in Kremlin, thet they cant have "super space program", and because they cant say it to population. They prduce those kind of "controlled leaks" to satisfy population, while not realizing those plans.
    No Russia is not Poland. Russia has a high-tech space industry to maintain; which actually makes plenty of money in the right spheres (satellite production and unmanned launches for 3rd countries, space tourism in the past, etc...). It's also key to ICBM production, the GLONASS global positioning system and to Russia's national security and science level in general. You might as well tell Russia to let go of our Nuclear power plant tech, Aerospace industry, Defense industry, Northern Sea Route and Railway transit systems, Petrochemical production, etc... simply because Russia is Poland, and Poland has no such things.

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    I always wondered what it would have been like to grow up in the 60-70's with so many incredible achievments being made

    Human advancement is rather boring right now

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    Not all technology scales as well as computing.

    Space is one area. The challenges are epic and daunting, at a time when there are much worse problems at home.

    Russian infrastructure is probably crumbling after decades of under investment . (its probably as bad as in the US) .

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    Quote Originally Posted by sepheronx View Post
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    Doom reference...

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    Quote Originally Posted by memfisa View Post
    I always wondered what it would have been like to grow up in the 60-70's with so many incredible achievments being made

    Human advancement is rather boring right now

    I disagree. I think now is the most exciting time for tech lovers in all of human history. Current model cell phones are more powerful than '80s supercomputers, and what is more important - available to everyone at low cost. Cars, iPads, data phones, 3G networks, 3d 60" TVs, Internet with 5mb/s download speeds - all of it is freaking incredible in my book.

    I think we just got desensitized and stopped noticing the great leaps in technology due to their sheer volume and frequency. I remember getting super excited for Pentium 2, moderately excited for Pentium 3, being contempt with Pentium 4, and just then just routinely upgrading at the next cycle starting with dual cores.

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    The success of Space-X and successful return of the Dragon capsule its more likely then before that future Russian space exploration can be done jointly with Russia esp since we now dont have to rely on Russia to send our astronauts into space, we now have something to bring to the table to do joint exploration with Russia and shown the US is still in the game of heavy cargo lifting and crew delivery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sashko View Post
    I disagree. I think now is the most exciting time for tech lovers in all of human history. Current model cell phones are more powerful than '80s supercomputers, and what is more important - available to everyone at low cost. Cars, iPads, data phones, 3G networks, 3d 60" TVs, Internet with 5mb/s download speeds - all of it is freaking incredible in my book.

    I think we just got desensitized and stopped noticing the great leaps in technology due to their sheer volume and frequency. I remember getting super excited for Pentium 2, moderately excited for Pentium 3, being contempt with Pentium 4, and just then just routinely upgrading at the next cycle starting with dual cores.
    An iphone kinda pails against a Saturn V.

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