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    Quote Originally Posted by Kher View Post
    Aftonbladet writes that britain sent a Boeing E-3 Sentry, but i see now that sjofartsverket lists the E-3 first then the "Hawkeye" later so not that likely to be a missidentification after all.
    It's been edited in the last hour.

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    It's been over a day... Do they stand a chance in that weather/terrain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlantic Friend View Post
    It's been over a day... Do they stand a chance in that weather/terrain?
    If they survived the crash they should be able to survive for some time, it's windy but doesn't seem to go bellow -10C and even a pretty broken fuselage would provide some decent shelter.
    The downside is that the chance of doing a decent emergency landing in that area arn't that great. There is also the fact that most of us who have flown on C-130s know that you don't really sit in your seat with a seat belt on, specially not if there's no payload.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlantic Friend View Post
    It's been over a day... Do they stand a chance in that weather/terrain?
    Quote Originally Posted by Sniffit View Post
    If they survived the crash they should be able to survive for some time, it's windy but doesn't seem to go bellow -10C and even a pretty broken fuselage would provide some decent shelter.
    The downside is that the chance of doing a decent emergency landing in that area arn't that great. There is also the fact that most of us who have flown on C-130s know that you don't really sit in your seat with a seat belt on, specially not if there's no payload.
    the military officials say they have a chance of surviving in this article...

    http://translate.google.no/translate...%2F20713469%2F

    if it doesn't work again, here is the Norwegian language article:

    http://www.dagbladet.no/2012/03/16/n...aret/20713469/
    Last edited by memoli; 03-16-2012 at 06:20 PM. Reason: the link should work now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by memoli View Post
    the military officials say they have a chance of surviving in this article...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sniffit View Post
    It's been edited in the last hour.
    Ahh yes i see i got the timeline the wrong way, it's a E-3 for sure.

    Dagbladet.no reports that Norwegian special forces FSK and MJK are involved in the search along with special forces from the Swedish army's jegerbataljon.

    http://www.dagbladet.no/2012/03/16/n...ules/20721032/

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    A Herc crashed back in '91 in the Canadian Arctic ( it was part of Operation Boxtop 22 ) and many of those folks survived for a fair while in weather that was far worse.....Fingers still crossed for the crew.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kher View Post
    Ahh yes i see i got the timeline the wrong way, it's a E-3 for sure.

    Dagbladet.no reports that Norwegian special forces FSK and MJK are involved in the search along with special forces from the Swedish Army Ranger battalion .

    http://www.dagbladet.no/2012/03/16/n...ules/20721032/
    Fixed it for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy Batty View Post
    A Herc crashed back in '91 in the Canadian Arctic ( it was part of Operation Boxtop 22 ) and many of those folks survived for a fair while in weather that was far worse.....Fingers still crossed for the crew.
    I don't generally want to be pessimistic, but it's very unlikely that they didn't die on impact.

    The crash you are referring to happened in much flatter terrain, as can be seen in this photo
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    Apparently some pieces from the topic wreckage were found on this glacier.
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    The mountain in the background is Kebnekaise (2100 m), and that is what they most probably hit, flying towards the camera. The glacier starts approx. 400 m below the ridge. The picture is of course taken in summer.

    If things happened like I think they did, atleast they didn't suffer.

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    Hope against hope that there are survivors. I know very little about survival chances in this case, but might there not be at least a glimmer? It reminds me of the passenger plane that crashed high in the Andes mountains many years ago (the subject of "Alive", by Piers Paul Read). Against all expectation, there were survivors. Being stranded for so long, they had to resort to eating the dead, until finally one of them made it down and brought in rescue parties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juxtapose View Post
    Hope against hope that there are survivors. I know very little about survival chances in this case, but might there not be at least a glimmer?
    Sorry to be pessimistic, but things are really not looking good atm. Debris have been found on both sides of the mountain, and at least some parts smell of kerosene. No ELT signal from the aircraft, and nobody activated their personal locator beacon. Last radar showed that the aircraft was on an altitude extremely close to the height of Kebnekaise mountain top.

    I'd say it was a CFIT into the mountain top, probably happened too fast for anyone to report anything on radio, let alone activate any emergency transmitters. I hope I'm wrong though.

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    Finally better weather. Right now they are flying 120 search crew up to 2000m by helicopter to continue the search after they found those parts yesterday.

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    one of my first posts so bare with me. News says they found parts from the plane this morning at rabots glacier. the weather atm is good and sunny but will be worse in the afternoon.

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    Crash site located 1500m over the sea, reports says that its a mess with thousands of pieces of the plane spread over a huge area.



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    The plane hit the ridge of the Kebnekaise mountain. They've found the plane wreckage and crashsite. There are thousands of pieces spread out over a large area.

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