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    The Dutch head of state will no longer play a role in the formation of government after general elections. A large majority of MPs have voted in favour of parliament taking over this role in the formation of coalition governments after elections.
    The text for the change in the parliamentary rules of procedure was drawn up jointly by opposition parties: the Labour Party, the Freedom Party, the Socialist Party, the Green Left, D66 and the Animal Rights Party. Up until last week, there was no majority for the bill as the Socialist Party opposed the D66 proposal. Agreement was reached after the Green Left intervened with a suggestion to alter the text. Together the parties hold 91 seats out of 150.
    A professor in state affairs from the University of Groningen, Douwe Jan Elzinga, warns that MPs have taken a great risk by removing the head of state’s role in the formation process, He says the text should have included a possibility to call on the head of state’s help if needed.
    According to commercial news broadcaster RTL Nieuws, parliament had been able to circumvent the head of state in the formation process since 1971, but had never exercised the possibility. However, a future parliament can just as easily undo the new regulation says its Hague desk.
    Dutch elections are often followed by a complicated formation process. The head of state, Queen Beatrix, appoints an “informateur”, who looks at the possibilities for forming a coalition government. Once this has been established, a “formateur” is appointed to oversee the coalition negotiations between the parties involved.
    Inb4 massive cluster**** between future coalition parties, due to a lack of an impartial informateur/formateur. The opposition claims this cabinet rules through symbolic politics, but this a fine example of it as well.
    http://www.rnw.nl/english/bulletin/m...role-formation

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    Quote Originally Posted by RSone View Post
    Inb4 massive cluster**** between future coalition parties, due to a lack of an impartial informateur/formateur. The opposition claims this cabinet rules through symbolic politics, but this a fine example of it as well.
    http://www.rnw.nl/english/bulletin/m...role-formation
    No idea why they are doing this, the role as queen as apolitic figure to appoint a "formateur" is the easiest way out of a long discussion and prevents politicians to neglect their responsabilities after the election. I hoped they would have realised that after the last formation crisis, but I guess they still haven't learned from their mistakes.

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    That's it. Now it's time for a reactionary orangist/monarchist revolution!

    By the way, none of the government-coalition parties (PVV/Geert Wilders not counted) voted in favor of this, and besides them only two minor Christian parties opposed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeWolf View Post
    That's it. Now it's time for a reactionary orangist/monarchist revolution!

    By the way, none of the government-coalition parties (PVV/Geert Wilders not counted) voted in favor of this, and besides them only two minor Christian parties opposed it.
    The 6 that did hold something like 90 seats in parliament, though...

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    The parties that voted against this were the more conservative parties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anka View Post
    The parties that voted against this were the more conservative parties.
    Currently holding a minority in parliament..They don't/didn't even have to vote, it wouldn't have mattered.

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    I woke up this morning, but I felt none of the increasing democracy and transparency .

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    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeWolf View Post
    I woke up this morning, but I felt none of the increasing democracy and transparency .
    I did, when I heard that MP Brinkman resigned from the PVV fraction because Wilders stops him and his ideas of democratization of the PVV.

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    What's the general opinion of the average Klaas? I thought the royals were still rather popular with the Dutch people.

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    I don't like this change.

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    Me neither. Although the queen has a symbolic function, it is good to have someone who has no political colour / benefits during key political moments..

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    I don't doubt she has her political preferences, but she is the Queen, and in that function she doesn't make it explicit, as opposed to the MP appointing the formateur/informateur, who whould be politically biased by default.

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    Sure, she is still a human being. But let's assume she does not like the PVV: I don't think that she will try to prevent them from forming a government when they have the most votes.

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