Toulouse Suspects Cornered

[Ivan le Fou]

Well that's what I heard on France Info.

It appears the weapons he used were easy to find on the black market. Yes, I was talking about illegal market.
As for the welfare it was a conjecture one of my relative (working as a nurse in a cité) some make a lot of money by taking advantage of the system.

[Mordoror]

It appears the weapons he used were easy to find on the black market. Yes, I was talking about illegal market.

I know but still ....*
To prove it you should know that according to Police a same weapon is often used in several events, meaning that even for the bad guys, such kind of weapons are so expansives (because of rarity) that they have to do a sharing system

some make a lot of money by taking advantage of the system.

Open secret : yep some do a lot of money by abusing the system but you'll never do as much of money as if you'll deal some pot/MJ
If black economy can pay 100 to 300 euros/few hours for teens (12-13-14 years old) watching the area, you can imagine how much the middle size and big fishes can earn

[b0sco]

French police stop march in memory of Toulouse killer

http://www.agi.it/english-version/wo...oulouse_killer

[KoTeMoRe]

No, that wouldn't make you a Communist, but you would still doing things in the name of Communism, or claim to do so.

If the guy had gone on a random rampage, shooting passers-by and then saying "Oh, by the way, this is because Allah is great and France shouldn't have troops in Afghanistan", I would concur he was "just" some psychopath. Same if he had attacked French Jews and French soldiers to make us think twice about cruelty to animals or the need to floss before going to bed.

But here I find him a pretty coherent psychopath : his targets are coherent with his rhetoric. He embraces radical Islam, he goes to Pakistan/Afghanistan to do his part for Allah (which IMHO shows premeditation), he comes home and attacks targets that are coherent with radical Islam.

If I started having fits of anti-Russian (for example) rage, went to Chechnya to link up with Kavkaz rebels, then went back to France and attacked Russian nationals there, before regretting I couldn't have killed more, would people consider I'm just a wacko who attacked more or less at random whatever targets I could find, or would they think I'm a pretty coherent murderer? My money would be on option 2, sure I'd probably not be nominated for Most Even-Keel Frenchman of the Year, but it would be hard to deny my deeds were logical with regards to my statements.

Where I agree with you is that he doesn't quite fit the bill for an organized terrorist - he sounds more like the guys in Israel who drive trucks into the crowd or individually open fire into a crowd. He seems a "disorganized terrorist", a loner more than the member of a structured terror cell.

I'm not saying this guy is not a terrorist. By essence terror isn't franchised to a religion or thought. I'm saying this kid had no "ideological" penchants until being put in prison. We've yet to see if this guy was in touch with AQ people. Which I doubt as the opportunity endorsment came to confirm. They (allegedly some AQ affiliated group) took responsibility like a full fortnight after the first murder? What's that for "terror cell"? To me that's just a brainwashed tool that would kill anyone if "hope" was given back to him.

This man was fed up, and he wanted to go out in "style". I'm sure this guy 30 years before would have ended up dead on a hijacked El Al flight. That's simply the issue with the crappy future he tailored to himself.

On a more humourous note, if you had fits of anti-Russian rage you'd be hosted at the French Parliament and called BHL or Glucksman and cash into that screwing hot plastic blondes or hairy armpited philo students. Unlike other fits some come with benefits.

We're on the same page just at different paragraphs.

I concur with this man.

http://www.ouest-france.fr/region/br...58522_actu.Htm

Ivan: Welfare? How much? If he really was into Afghan trips unnoticed then he would have parted ways with a lot of money. Between 30 and 50K as usually the "European" recruits do. They "buy" their way in. Him being in the gaol until mid 2010 how much could he grab? Three to four Assedics? 2500 per month? And no one seeing that? Why doeing that when you can make a little fortune with pot and coke, some stolen scooter, iPhone and laptop.

TG211: How many burqas are worn? How many radicals are they? This one is a good one. Why this specific duality with Islam. I mean pardon my French here, but why don't I hear muslims...in these discussions. Why do I hear only about radicals and moderates? I mean couldn't it be that muslims, like many other religion partakers are apathic when it comes to things that are mostly individual acts? I mean you had a Muslim Justice minister what was she? Moderate? Radical? Was she even Muslim?

The more we speak about radicals and moderates, the more the symbolic of guilt and distrust becomes ingrained into the Muslim ethos. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying there aren't Salafists, Takfirists, Sunni morons, Shia twelvists and other joyeusetés of that kind. I'm just telling you that Muslims are trying hard to embrace France. I suppose like many others before. Les Polaks, les Ritals, les Viets/bridés, les Yugos...but why is that so hard for these people to obtain a sincere look from "true blood" French. Are those the scars from Algeria?

[Camera]

I'm not saying this guy is not a terrorist. By essence terror isn't franchised to a religion or thought. I'm saying this kid had no "ideological" penchants until being put in prison.

And where did his older brother got his ideological penchants?

We've yet to see if this guy was in touch with AQ people. Which I doubt as the opportunity endorsment came to confirm. They (allegedly some AQ affiliated group) took responsibility like a full fortnight after the first murder? What's that for "terror cell"? To me that's just a brainwashed tool that would kill anyone if "hope" was given back to him.

This man was fed up, and he wanted to go out in "style". I'm sure this guy 30 years before would have ended up dead on a hijacked El Al flight. That's simply the issue with the crappy future he tailored to himself.

BS.
Europeans Muslims were not involved in terror at the time. This phenomenon started in the 90s.


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Toulouse shootings: Mohamed Merah sent video of killings to al-Jazeera


Broadcaster receives USB memory stick containing 25 minutes of video and a letter claiming responsibility for the murders

(…)

The Paris office of the Qatar-based broadcasters confirmed they received a letter containing a USB memory stick and a letter claiming responsibility for the murders. The memory stick was found to contain 25 minutes of video recordings of his nine-day killing spree, interspersed with what police said were "war chants".

The film was authenticated by investigators. The postal stamp on the parcel was dated last Wednesday. At the time, Merah, who expressed support for al-Qaeda, was already holed up in his flat in the south eastern city of Toulouse surrounded by police, who had swooped at 3am.

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According to police sources quoted in Le Figaro, the letter was sent from a village close to Toulouse. Detectives are now trying to establish whether Merah posted the video before returning to his flat on Tuesday, or whether he had an accomplice.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012...?newsfeed=true

The letter claims the responsibility of AQ for the attacks.

[muck]

French police stop march in memory of Toulouse killer

http://www.agi.it/english-version/wo...oulouse_killer

A fucking shame. I'm feeling inclined to wish on those broads that somebody takes them their children in a likewise manner.

[Camera]

The father of Merah announced he wants to sue French state for killing his son.

[muck]

Here's hoping they sue him back for being a complete and utter fuckwit. But I can very well imagine some retarded judge who'll happily accept the lawsuit and rule in his favour.

[GB_FXST]

The father of Merah announced he wants to sue French state for killing his son.

Under French law, can Merah's victims (and surviving family) sue Merah's estate?

[Camera]

Under French law, can Merah's victims (and surviving family) sue Merah's estate?

I think they can't, but I'm not sure.


EDIT:
After a second thought, maybe they can sue his own estate (if he possessed anything) but not his part of the future heritage of his parents… But I may be wrong.

[rhino]

Wasn't he a welfare recipient??
I would go after father, he reised the bastard

[GB_FXST]

I think they can't, but I'm not sure.


EDIT:
After a second thought, maybe they can sue his own estate (if he possessed anything) but not his part of the future heritage of his parents… Though, I may be wrong.

Hopefully they do, especially if his father is making a claim against the state.

Wasn't he a welfare recipient??
I would go after father, he reised the bastard

Probably no legal basis to go after the father, considering he is not a minor.

[TG211]

The father can go eat human defecations. I hate crime apologists.

[bve]

I would go after father, he reised the bastard

not really
merah was raised, along with his four siblings, by the mother alone after the father left and went back to algeria iirc

I, for one, pity his mom: she must've had a hard time raising five kids on her own, and seeing at least two of them (mm and the older brother abdelkader) become what they now are... sucks :-/

[Telmar]

Question: who went to the post office to post to Al-Jazeera the videos he took from the school murders and the those of the soldiers. Postal stamp says wednesday last week when MM was already cornered. Either he posted it on Tuesday but the mail was sent the next day, either someone did it for him.

The video is formatted with Coranic verses and music and no computer was found in his flat.

The question of accomplices arises. It could be his brother, under custody and arrest.