yup looks jus like him
Updated at 2:45 p.m. ET: The man who shot and killed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, setting off a nationwide outpouring of anger, told police that Martin knocked him down with a single punch and slammed his head into the sidewalk several times — an account that police said witnesses have corroborated, according to The Orlando Sentinel.
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...cked-zimmerman
Is it just me that thinks there's a discrepancy between "Martin knocked him down with a single punch and slammed his head into the sidewalk several times" and then "Zimmerman wasn't badly injured and didn’t seek treatment until the next day."?
If Martin caught him off guard it's not hard to knock somebody down. I took a beer bottle to the back of the head which completely took me down, then the guy jumped on me and started hitting me...aside from a few cuts and some swelling I was ok the next day.
There was something about the delay in getting Zimmerman medical attention on the night of the incident.Originally Posted by Corrupt
so what we know as fact:
-200+lb urban commando follows youth around while in car despite being told not to by a dispatcher
-200lb man confronts youth on acting suspicious (while not saying what was suspicious about him)
-???
-200lb man is apparently attacked by youth, thus requiring a gun to save his life.
-200lb man was apparently not injured enough to warrant a trip to the hospital until AFTER it looked like he was going to get in trouble for hosing an unarmed kid.
is this about it? or am i missing some key details such as the kid having an extensive police record or something?
Not really, his injuries aren't inconsistent with that description. He had a gash on the back of his head.
But isn't he like 5'2"? Since when does extreme morbid obesity equate with strength or fighting skill ?
So being neighborhood watch and having a CCP is being an urban commando?
It's more like short fat dude, vs tall relatively skinny kid...who is apparently blindsided by him as he returned to his truck to wait for Sanford PD. It's not hard to imagine a teen who is 6'2 180lbs and prior or current football player putting a beat down on a short fat guy.
You probably will never know any police record on Martin since he's a juvenile, all I found was something about him being expelled or suspended from school for having weed on school property.
It's funny about all the outrage and convicted this guy before he even gets a trial. Putting bounties on his head (Dead or Alive) and the hysterical media screaming just like they did w/ the Duke Lacrosse case, how did that turn out again?
He had a gash on the back of his head yes, but that could be from the fall after a punch. There have been a few cases in the news here where such an attack left the victim dead, or severely brain damaged. I'd have expected him to be slightly worse for wear if his head had been "slammed" into some concrete several times.
The problem is, it appears there was little to no investigation. If he'd been detained, questions asked, evidence examined and then he was released without charge for X reason, there'd be significantly less outrage.
Hey check this out, why not make a little cash, talk about not letting a good crisis go to waste
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documen...demarks-769123
Drunken fights on city sidewalks happen all the time, brain damage is fairly unusual...
Witnesses in any case corroborated the "head slamming".
Why was Zimmerman even out of his vehicle to begin with?
Maybe it'll turn out that Zimmerman legally defended himself once things went south. Maybe Martin hit him, who knows. Some strange man starts following and then confronts me on a rainy night, I'm sure it'd trigger all sorts of fight or flight responses.
Twitter & FB pics for Martin
http://www.wagist.com/2012/dan-lineh...-a-drug-dealer
Here's a police statement on two of the more common gripes:
http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigati...n_shooting.pdfWhy was George Zimmerman not arrested the night of the shooting?
When the Sanford Police Department arrived at the scene of the incident, Mr.
Zimmerman provided a statement claiming he acted in self defense which at the time
was supported by physical evidence and testimony. By Florida Statute, law
enforcement was PROHIBITED from making an arrest based on the facts and
circumstances they had at the time. Additionally, when any police officer makes an
arrest for any reason, the officer MUST swear and affirm that he/she is making the
arrest in good faith and with probable cause. If the arrest is done maliciously and in
bad faith, the officer and the City may be held liable.
According to Florida Statute 776.032 :
776.032 Immunity from criminal prosecution and civil action for justifiable use
of force.—
(1) A person who uses force as permitted in s. 776.012, s. 776.013, or s. 776.031 is
justified in using such force and is immune from criminal prosecution and civil action
for the use of such force, unless the person against whom force was used is a law
enforcement officer, as defined in s. 943.10(14), who was acting in the performance
of his or her official duties and the officer identified himself or herself in accordance
with any applicable law or the person using force knew or reasonably should have
known that the person was a law enforcement officer. As used in this subsection, the
term “criminal prosecution” includes arresting, detaining in custody, and charging or
prosecuting the defendant.
(2) A law enforcement agency may use standard procedures for investigating the
use of force as described in subsection (1), but the agency may not arrest the
person for using force unless it determines that there is probable cause that the
force that was used was unlawful.
If Zimmerman was told not to continue to follow Trayvon, can that be
considered in this investigation?
Yes it will; however, the telecommunications call taker asked Zimmerman “are you
following him”. Zimmerman replied, “yes”. The call taker stated “you don’t need to do
that”. The call taker’s suggestion is not a lawful order that Mr. Zimmerman would be
required to follow. Zimmerman’s statement was that he had lost sight of Trayvon and
was returning to his truck to meet the police officer when he says he was attacked by
Trayvon.
5' 9" 250lbs
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