Reply With QuoteMedals should be awarded to people for the extrordanary deeds they do, not to make them feel "empowered" because they balanced the books...Originally Posted by eskachig
Air Force has a meritoriuous service medal...there are other meritorious service medals...the bronze star has been tarnished by giving it to people that sit in an air conditioned office on a big fob.
Medals should be awarded to people for the extrordanary deeds they do, not to make them feel "empowered" because they balanced the books...
Agreed - FULLY
Again, FULLY agree.
Yes - but even the "Meritorious" BSM is intended for acts during combat actions - NOT intended for REMFs and FOBITTS. I just think that she should have gotten an MSM (Meritorious Service Medal - this medal is the "equivilent" of a BSM, except for meritorious acts not directly related to combat operations) or if it were a joint billet a DMSM (Defense Meritorious Service Medal). Both of my BSMs are "Meritorious" but both were also for service provided outside the wire with a direct impact on conduct of combat operations. My DMSM (originally submitted as a BSM) was also for combat operations, but the command that awarded it deemd the actions not directly combat related...whatever, the only reason it bummed me out is that I had to re-mount my medals.
Thanks for clarification.
He was an observer in an aircraft that some AA rounds were fired vaguely in the direction of. I think the pilot of the same aircraft was awarded... with having another mission to fly.
Suuuuuuuuuuuuuure it was. Might want to take a look at the SWPA assets again before making dumb claims. They had some of the newest Aircraft in the whole PTO.
Well heck…I had an NCOIC whose claim to fame was that he never deployed to the desert in his entire AF career (in Air Mobility Command). He wrote himself a Meritorius Service Medal while he was acting NCOIC and had our new commander sign off on it before our deployed NCOIC returned from the desert. This same guy then was then sent to Honduras, where he ruptured his Achilles tendon (playing flag football). He spent three months on convalescent leave, plus another month on regular leave. He only spent eight out of twelve months on that one year assignment. He somehow got another Meritorius Service Medal. He returned back to my base and became the NCOIC. On retirement, he was awarded, once again, another Meritorius Service Medal.
Last edited by McFire; 03-29-2012 at 11:08 PM. Reason: typo
what a joke, can i have a bronze star too?
Johnson was FDR's eyes and ears at the time.
MacArthur knew the politics and played it to his advantage.
It worked.
All kinds of possibilities and comments come to mind, none of which that are probably fair or that I would like to share on a public forum....
Wow, i thought those kind of accomplishment are awarded the achievement medal.
LBJ made one trip while a Lt. Cdr. then forced Back into congress. His Silver Star medal was gained while a Passenger in a Martin B-26 Marauder- then considered NEW First Line equipment which hadnt even been fielded in the European theater yet. He had his own Airborne forces with the 503PIR and later the 11th Abn Div, his own dedicated amphibious forces, his 5th Air Force had the B-17, the B-25, B-26, A-20 all from the Beginning. Before LBJ arrived.
Don't forget MacArthur also had the 7th Fleet.
It was the case that the European Theater was a higher priority. And that both Nimitz and MacArthur had to wrangle for second priority. Leaving Stillwell and Slim whatever leftover scraps for the China-India-Burma Campaign.
All that changed in 1944 when the Japanese went on the offensive in China and overran several allied airbases and held ground until the end of the war.
Yeah, I don't understand all the negative comments. If it was a combat award it would have a V for Valor. It's been like this since WWII.
Can't believe all the rubbish and panty wadding over this.
During my time 66-70, a Bronze Star for or ArCom for service was a very common award.
Combat had no part in it. A "V" device denoted valor during combat.
Lacking other decorations, the powers that be decided that meritorious service often deserves note and these were the result.
Lots of folks never get near combat, but perform well and beyond the requirements of their position.
You think they should get ignored?
Very high awards like the "Legion of Merit" or Meritorious Service Medals do not involve combat.
Why does this person's *** become an issue?
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