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    Email and web use 'to be monitored' under new laws

    The government will be able to monitor the calls, emails, texts and website visits of everyone in the UK under new legislation set to be announced soon.
    Internet firms will be required to give intelligence agency GCHQ access to communications on demand, in real time.
    The Home Office says the move is key to tackling crime and terrorism, but civil liberties groups have criticised it.
    Tory MP David Davis called it "an unnecessary extension of the ability of the state to snoop on ordinary people".
    Attempts by the last Labour government to take similar steps failed after huge opposition, including from the Tories.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17576745

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    Isn't it already ?

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    Would you rather live in "omg oppressed internet" or safe country?

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    I guess they need to monitor it to arrest all those Twitter users...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozzy[NO] View Post
    I guess they need to monitor it to arrest all those Twitter users...
    The non-Muslim ones anyway.

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    I look forward to the news of Timetraveller's arrest

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    Yeah, and the UK has always been at war with Eastasia....

    I'm honestly not surprised by this move, the UK has been going downhill for years now.

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    Plans for UK web monitoring could affect Irish users

    http://businessetc.thejournal.ie/pla...03691-Apr2012/

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    Quote Originally Posted by wwjs View Post
    Would you rather live in "omg oppressed internet" or safe country?
    Is it really either or?

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    How is this compared to the laws used during the troubles. Would this indicate a move back to more authoritarian rule similar to that of old days or is this a new step “covering uncharted ground”? Would this also effect international internet users who have data going thru English territory?
    How is this move being argued? What are the arguments legitimizing this?
    Lots of questions I would be happy if someone with more “local” knowledge would give some insight.

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    Meh.

    I've got an Android phone, so it's not like GCHQ will be doing anything that Google doesn't already do to me... short of selling the information to advertisers.

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    I don't think I am going to get overly concerned by what is nothing more than traffic analysis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C.Puffs View Post
    The non-Muslim ones anyway.
    I know how hard you try to stay away from the facts. So just for you.

    Azhar Ahmed – charged with treason over Facebook comments?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCR View Post
    I look forward to the news of Timetraveller's arrest

    People have been saying that for years .. to me ... guess what they have and will always be wrong !!!

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    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/britain-set...235857447.html

    LONDON (*******) - Britain is to allow one of its intelligence agencies to monitor all phone calls, texts, emails and online activities in the country to help tackle crime and militant attacks, the Interior Ministry said on Sunday.

    "It is vital that police and security services are able to obtain communications data in certain circumstances to investigate serious crime and terrorism and to protect the public," a Home Office spokesman said.

    The proposed law already has drawn strong criticism, from within the ruling Conservative Party's own ranks, as an invasion of privacy and personal rights.

    "What the government hasn't explained is precisely why they intend to eavesdrop on all of us without even going to a judge for a warrant, which is what always used to happen," Member of Parliament David Davis told BBC News.

    "It is an unnecessary extension of the ability of the state to snoop on ordinary people," he said.

    New legislation is expected to be announced in the legislative agenda-setting speech given by the queen in May.

    Currently, British agencies can monitor calls and e-mails of specific individuals who may be under investigation after obtaining ministerial approval, but expanding that to all citizens is certain to enrage civil liberties campaigners.

    Internet companies would be required to install hardware which would allow the Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ), referred to as Britain's electronic ‘listening' agency, to gain real-time access to communications data.

    The new law would not allow GCHQ to access the content of emails, calls or messages without a warrant, but it would allow it to trace who an individual or group was in contact with, how frequently they communicated and for how long.

    The Sunday Times newspaper, which first reported the story, said some details of the proposals were given to members of the Britain's Internet Service Providers' Association last month.

    "As set out in the Strategic Defence and Security Review we will legislate as soon as parliamentary time allows to ensure that the use of communications data is compatible with the government's approach to civil liberties," the Home Office spokesman said.

    Any proposed legislation changes are likely to face stiff opposition in both houses of the British Parliament.

    A similar proposal was considered by the then-ruling Labour party in 2006 but was abandoned in the face of fierce opposition by the Conservatives and Liberal Democrats, who are junior partners in the ruling coalition.

    The proposed legislation could reflect the U.S. Patriot Act, controversially introduced six weeks after September 11 in 2001, to expand the government's authority to monitor the communications activity of its citizens.

    (Reporting by Stephen Mangan; Editing by Michael Roddy)
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