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    Quote Originally Posted by periandros View Post
    yes according to international sea law,greece has the right to expend the naval territory from 6 to 12. Its 100% legal. Greece acts always according international laws.True story.

    Turkey has access in neutreal waters but everytime invades Greek territory which arent expanded yet.
    Can you proof it? Because as i remember Greece is
    reluctant to any international court about "Turkish-Greek Eagean Problem". If you want, we can talk to issues in other topic?

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    Turkey disagreement lacks of law base. They only dont wanna lose the status quo that made all these years in Aegean making grey zones all the sea. Same thing happend a few months before when Egypt after Mubaraks fall and raise of Muslim Brotherhood,obvious after Turkeys request,called Cyprus and Turkey to deal their EFZ leaving Greece out,despite the Greek island of Κastelorizo clearly limits the line of Greek EFZ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camera View Post
    The intention of a drill like that is to increase naval cooperation.
    Obama has friendly relations with Erdogan in regard to Syria and Iran, but he does not support Turkish navy intimidations in Cyprus' EEZ.
    That's a different story, what you all are saying is that; this drill is to scare Erdo off in genaral

    Which isn't and we all know that.

    It sounds more like a wishfull thinking from the Greek side that it was to scare him off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camera View Post
    The intention of a drill like that is to increase naval cooperation.
    Obama has friendly relations with Erdogan in regard to Syria and Iran, but he does not support Turkish navy intimidations in Cyprus' EEZ.
    Greek Cyprus is acting as an only representive of the Cyprus Island, but she is not. And she can't make any agreement such a close sea terrotery in the Esat-Meditarien. They dont have any international agreement about EEZ, except the Mubarek's Egypt. This is a realy long story and here is not enough to discuss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tolga View Post
    Can you proof it? Because as i remember Greece is
    reluctant to any international court about "Turkish-Greek Eagean Problem". If you want, we can talk to issues in other topic?
    We did that many times before. As soon as we present the comparing maps of the situation, other side calls for the suspension of the Turkish members and locking of the thread immediately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4X4Driver View Post
    Please don't pretend you don't know that some of the Greek islands are only 7NM off the Turkish mainland coast. Take a good look at the map one more time.

    The mentioned streights/channel has no similar situation whats so ever as the Aegean sea with 3000 + Greek islets/islands.
    7NM is also your coast in the opposite side. You don't see any HAF planes flying over? Why don't you fly only over Turkish ot International waters / land? Don't you have enough space?????

    Also why ther is a difference? How exactly a corvette 30kms east of Athens helps your "defence"

    Try looking up for this word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4X4Driver View Post
    That's a different story, what you all are saying is that; this drill is to scare Erdo off in genaral

    Which isn't and we all know that.

    It sounds more like a wishfull thinking from the Greek side that it was to scare him off.
    Read again my posts.
    It's not about scarring Erdogan or treating Turkey. It's about encouraging cooperation between Greece's and Israel's navies. Everybody (EU, US) has an interest to increase such cooperation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4X4Driver View Post
    We did that many times before. As soon as we present the comparing maps of the situation, other side calls for the locking of the thread immediately.
    I agree. Also with this prejudgement both sides can only discuss the top rated media issues at the internet. But the problems are huge and needs more acedemic aproach.

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    Turkey disagreement lacks of law base. They only dont wanna lose the status quo that made all these years in Aegean making grey zones all the sea. Same thing happend a few months before when Egypt after Mubaraks fall and raise of Muslim Brotherhood,obvious after Turkeys request,called Cyprus and Turkey to deal their EFZ leaving Greece out,despite the Greek island of Κastelorizo clearly limits the line of Greek EFZ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iloxos View Post
    7NM is also your coast in the opposite side. You don't see any HAF planes flying over? Why don't you fly only over Turkish ot International waters / land? Don't you have enough space?????
    We just don't make big int'l fuss about it that's all. Remember the myth you guys brag about making a touchdown at the Cigli AFB ?

    Also why ther is a difference? How exactly a corvette 30kms east of Athens helps your "defence"
    Oh....that. That happened only once and the captain of the corvette said he was lost and apologized for it


    Quote Originally Posted by Camera View Post
    Read again my posts.
    It's not about scarring Erdogan or treating Turkey. It's about encouraging cooperation between Greece's and Israel's navies. Everybody (EU, US) has an interest to increase such cooperation.
    I was actually refering to the newspaper article and its "message"

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    ^^^
    Agreed, the newspaper's message is not reliable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4X4Driver View Post
    We just don't make big int'l fuss about it that's all. Remember the myth you guys brag about making a touchdown at the Cigli AFB ?
    Oh....that. That happened only once and the captain of the corvette said he was lost and apologized for it
    4Χ4 there is NO way for HAF planes to go over turkish land. Greeks or Turks that claim this are lying. Accidents due happen but they are very rare since greek pilots tend no to get lost or they ll find themselves flying PZLs.

    Once? Once? Are you joking? There is a ship every month - last one was from F490 Gaziantep.

    the only think you are managing is to alianate your country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4X4Driver View Post
    Oh....that. That happened only once and the captain of the corvette said he was lost and apologized for it
    LOL. The last happened exactly 10 days ago ,in 24th March, one day before our national holyday. The turkish frigate Gaziantep F490 ,reached the south coasts of Attica and was visible from land. If thats not provokation what is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iloxos View Post
    Once? Once? Are you joking? There is a ship every month - last one was from F490 Gaziantep.


    Quote Originally Posted by periandros View Post
    LOL. The last happened exactly 10 days ago ,in 24th March, one day before our national holyday. The turkish frigate Gaziantep F490 ,reached the south coasts of Attica and was visible from land. If thats not provokation what is?
    There have always been such allegations for the domestic consumption and we know that.



    the only think you are managing is to alianate your country.
    On the contrary, there was no other gov't in the history of the Turkish Republic that got the support of US, EU and specifically your country, more than the current Islamist Erdogan gov't.

    Strange isn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4X4Driver View Post
    There have always been such allegations for the domestic consumption and we know that.
    Allegations??? OMG...




    Quote Originally Posted by 4X4Driver View Post
    On the contrary, there was no other gov't in the history of the Turkish Republic that got the support of US, EU and specifically your country, more than the current Islamist Erdogan gov't.Strange isn't it?
    That was before you desided to send "help" to Gaza.

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