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J20 speculation/discussion (read rules first or die)
Hello everyone,
Let's have a *civil* discussion about the J20. What you think it might be used for, interesting tid bits about it, etc etc. All kinds of discussion.
Rules:
1. Keep it civil.
2. Don't be a rooster.
3. Dispassionate discussion only please. I don't want to see people getting their nationalism on thanks.
4. Related to 3. Discuss it civilly and back up your opinion. If you start posting rubbish like "you're wrong!" but don't provide any discussion to back it up I'll ask the mods to delete your post.
5. Only use comparisons to other aircraft to highlight role/capability/doctrine differences, not to assert that is is better or worse than anything else.
It's an interesting aircraft and we don't know much about it. I've been having a thought lately it might be designed as some kind of high speed LO missile carrier to strike things like AWACS and other high value targets. Thoughts?
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I'm very interested in this as I know little about this aircraft. Every thread I've looked in on has turned into a ****-waving contest that is high on emotion and low on information.
I think a general rule that would be helpful for this thread would be to only use comparisons to other aircraft to highlight role/capability/doctrine differences, not to assert that is is better or worse than anything else.
That's a good rule, Chiptox, I'll add it in.
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(actually that was the purpose of my picture)
Well, here goes my guess (remember I´m aviation challenged also)
Had China wanted to had its own "5th generation", why not going for a more "conventional" design? (yes, I mean: something like the F-22)
Raptors have being around for years, and I´m pretty sure they know more than one secret about it. Trying a new approach will take years of tests; meanwhile F-22s are in service and t-50s are all steam (plus years of Russian know how)
How long has that been in the test flying stages ? If China intends to offer her on the market she would have to do the Airshow circuit to giving a proper visual representation that would make potential buyers sway there decision and I suspect her first public appreance outside China may well be the Moscow Airshow . Is there any further info on her regarding max ceiling , fuel , range and is it inflight refuel capable as well ??
The design is one reason why I'm wondering aloud about it being designed for high speed. Long and thin has traditionally usually been a design attribute of high speed aircraft (ref SR71, F-104 for two).
Interesting picture. I don't know the ins and outs of stealth/LO enough to really comment on your comment though.
She's been flying since Jan 2011 IIRC. No info on her vital stats yet though, they're keeping that very close to their chest. Re inflight refueling, I haven't seen a picture with a probe yet (either retracted or extended) but someone might be able to correct me there.
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Oh yes of course. You are a straight-shooter. But others might be encouraged to draw the comparisson and it is best for the thread to nip it in the bud before it gets out of hand.
EdisonTrent and IconofEvi, I've asked that your posts be deleted because they're off topic. EdisonTrent, your post is flamebait and I won't have it in this thread please.
Anyone else not interested in following the very clear and simple rules?
Seriously, it's up to you, I can infract/suspend/ban all day long.
I'm with Zorro on this one, especially since the plane is massive. I don't know much about anything, but that surely lines up with the massive sizes of typical interceptors. Unless we're talking deep strike ground attack capabilities, like the F-35, but I somehow doubt that.
Thanks for starting this thread, let's dump J-20 news here as well.
i doubt this bird will be exported, rumor has it they have another prototype for export market
as to your second question, nothing, nada, zilch
Can anyone fill me in on what this aircraft's specific role might be? I don't know much about it, but it seems too large to be an air supuriority fighter to me. Just what is/are it's role(s)? Is it simply a technology demonstrator?
One other thing it may be is a technology testbed, both the US and Russia had 5th gen prototypes in the air and flying around, but it took a while to settle into the final design. Or is it perhaps that the prototypes have been around for a while, but they didn't get any exposure. Hell even the J-20's coverage is though a semi-formal format.
Engines are probably just for testing, all the Pak-fa prototypes are carrying standard ones as well, till the new ones finish R&D. A good assumption would be that the Chinese are doing the same.
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