Philippine warship in standoff with China vessels

[Delta Niner]

need to b*tch about something!!! It is really a Culture Shock to me.

you would not feel any culture shock if you have Facebook in your country. BTW do you have a facebook account?

[ISNJH]

Newspaper: China vows to defend island claim

(CNN) -- A Chinese military newspaper has warned that the country's armed forces will not allow anyone to challenge China's sovereignty of a tiny island outcrop in the South China Sea.

China and the Philippines have been involved in a tense standoff since April 10 when the Philippines Navy accused Chinese boats of fishing illegally in waters off the Scarborough Shoal, some 130 miles (200 kilometers) from the Philippines island of Luzon.

They attempted to arrest the crew but were blocked by Chinese surveillance vessels deployed in the area.

Both countries claim the shoal, which China calls Huangyan Island. Analysts believe the area is rich in mineral resources, natural gas and oil.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/10/world/...ute/?hpt=wo_c2


And China has just sent an oil drilling platform to disputed waters to start drilling!

China’s largest offshore oil producer Cnooc has started its first deep-sea drilling project in the South China Sea, a move analysts see as a response to domestic pressure on Beijing to assert its claims in the disputed area.

Cnooc 981, China’s first self-developed deep sea drilling platform, started work in a spot 320km south-east of Hong Kong on Wednesday, the company said, adding it was planning to drill three wells and was optimistic that it would find oil.

It is unclear whether the platform’s location, in a block Cnooc calls Liwan 6-1, is in disputed waters. Li Jinming, a South China Sea expert at Xiamen University, said it was located between the Paracel Islands – an archipelago claimed by both China and Vietnam – and the Macclesfield Bank, claimed by China and Taiwan.

The announcement comes amid heightened tension over disputed waters with a month-long stand-off between Chinese and Philippine patrol ships in waters around Scarborough Shoal, a reef just west of Manila.

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/d621449...#axzz1uU9tc8k9

[[RNZE]Sapper]

And China has just sent an oil drilling platform to disputed waters to start drilling!

This is an interesting development. But none the less, an unsurprising one. A slow encroachment strategy. Start drilling near the disputed area and then move onto the disputed area. This puts ball into other players court. It potentially changes the dynamics of the Filipino and Vietnamese strategy from a defensive one into an offensive one. As with all disuputed areas, occupation and utilization has a strong bearing on the claim. If the South China sea is dotted with hundreds of Chinese platforms, the dispute becomes a moot point. And it's up to the other affected parties to initiate hostility, not the Chinese.

[comet]

Damn.. so it begins. I wonder if the Philippines, heck even the rest of the world would do anything about this "invasion" ? - you can't call it anything else

[ISNJH]

This Spring China warned the US that they have only limited ability to reign in North Korea and are currently applying pressure on the North to not do a provocation, this warning could be taken in two ways. 1: That China is trying to keep the peace and reign in North Korea and 2: when and if the time comes China can let loose the North to do what they want when it does not serve China's interest any longer.

If the second happens and China is drawn into a conflict between Vietnam and the Philippines then China may use the North to make the US sit on the sidelines with a warning that if the US gets involved they could be faced with a two front war facing not only China but a conflict in Korea instead of a smaller naval skirmish between countries..

[Jacob-Xia]

do you think your commie government pays attention to your general population? i have seen so called technical advisers from your country working here, hoarding left-over lunch so that they could eat it for dinner. is that what rich means to you?

the arrogance of your nation is so obvious that its easy to equate you with Hitler's Germany

believe me when I tell you that there is no territory problem, that little pile of rock called Scarborough Shoals is ours and ours alone. Live with that . . . .

Cry！ cry aloud! even everyone know you cry but I never give a little hair of mine to you which you eager to get but belongs to me!

I understand the guys help you SPEAK agaist the rising China, they have their own caculation. If I am not Chinese me too but I born on this land I have to sacrifice everything to protect her just like you. The finally result that everyone can guess.

Good luck!

[Moose]

If I am not Chinese me too but I born on this land I have to sacrifice everything to protect her just like you. The finally result that everyone can guess.
Good luck!

Priceless, so beautiful to see. Could you please enlighten me on exactly what you think the final result might be.

[clean]

Oh my god! Will somebody just shoot at somebody. How long does a standoff last?

[Token White Guy]

Oh my god! Will somebody just shoot at somebody. How long does a standoff last?

Start buying war bonds and stock up on crappy Chinese made ****.

[ISNJH]

I am just hoping it keeps as just a standoff and the shooting does not start.

[junglejim]

Well none of you worry, if it becomes a shooting war and it would be quick. There is no land to take, so its going to be a Naval battle, I'll pray for the Philippine Navy, but I'll put my money on the PLAN.

It's the long term consequences that would be interesting.

[ISNJH]

JungleJim, What if Vietnam sides with the Philippines and provides some support in the conflict do you think the Philippines providing Vietnam with refueling and basing support would at least have a better chance against the PLAN?

[junglejim]

JungleJim, What if Vietnam sides with the Philippines and provides some support in the conflict do you think the Philippines providing Vietnam with refueling and basing support would at least have a better chance against the PLAN?

It would be wise for Vietnam not to do that. As they have a land border with China, so easier for China to do damage to their country. Plus, their economy cant afford helping us and prepping their Army for a land conflict.

Given that our economy is bigger than their and we actually have a surplus, what would most lilkley happen is we get blown out of the water, they get a hold on to the shoal. We lick our wounds and cry like a lil bitch cause nobody helped, open up our reserves and actually buy the Euro ships being offered and maybe missiles from Russian and India. Akin to a nerd getting the snot beat out of him and realizing he needs to bulk up and go for round two, cause the teachers wont always be there.

It's the fishermen that would actually suffer since in the rest of the disputed territory I have a feeling the the Navies get more aggressive and would actually just ram the fishing vessels to avoid a stand off.

[Moose]

JungleJim, What if Vietnam sides with the Philippines and provides some support in the conflict do you think the Philippines providing Vietnam with refueling and basing support would at least have a better chance against the PLAN?

So how do you counter the atom bomb? How can you "win" against a Abomb state?

[Arnie100]

JungleJim, What if Vietnam sides with the Philippines and provides some support in the conflict do you think the Philippines providing Vietnam with refueling and basing support would at least have a better chance against the PLAN?

Sorry, but no.