Jordan to revoke citizenship of PA, PLO officials

[Camera]

You conquered a territory under the direct responsibility of the UN? ... I feared your title was a bad joke. I was wrong.

The territory was not "under the direct responsibility of the UN". It was a territory annexed by Jordan.

[EITAN88]

Point taken.

Although there are many ways to support one side. After all Israel was shipping arms to militia groups before it entered Lebanon.



Yes I hadn't thought about that. I still think that Israel would regret a Palestinian takeover in Jordan.

Hence Israel should aid the monarchy but without getting dirctly involved. Also, as Camera mentioned, Israel should use the threat of force if soverign countries try to intervene to overthrow the King (as occured in 1970 with Syria).

I still hold the opinion that the collapse of the monarchy wouldn't spell the end of the world and might provide a solution to the issues between Israel and the Palestinians in the long term.

[KoTeMoRe]

The territory was not "under the direct responsibility of the UN". It was a territory annexed by Jordan.

Sometimes I wonder if you are really that much of a troll. GC IV covers entirely this subject. Annexation is illegal bar express vote or signification by the territory annexed. The WB has rejected Jordan as its legal State. It has rejected Israel. I'd refer to this thread for all relevant legal information including why the UNR 181 is the only one relevant and possible the position of global leaders on this issue.
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...e-for-solution

[Camera]

Sometimes I wonder if you are really that much of a troll. GC IV covers entirely this subject. Annexation is illegal bar express vote or signification by the territory annexed. The WB has rejected Jordan as its legal State. It has rejected Israel.

How did the WB rejected it? Was there a referendum?

I'd refer to this thread for all relevant legal information including why the UNR 181 is the only one relevant and possible the position of global leaders on this issue.
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...e-for-solution

Your references in the thread you point at were doubtful. This thread is not the right place, if you have any new arguments to make on its topic.

You conquered a territory under the direct responsibility of the UN? ... I feared your title was a bad joke. I was wrong.

What direct responsibility? Was the territory administrated by the UN in 1967?

[KoTeMoRe]

How did the WB rejected it? Was there a referendum?




Your references in the thread you point at were doubtful. This thread is not the right place, if you have any new arguments to make on its topic.



What direct responsibility? Was the territory administrated by the UN in 1967?

How did the WB reject the Israeli authority? What about an open conflict for the last 40 years or so?
My references were pretty much textbook Kosher.
If a property gets invaded by squatters, then occupied by police, the property doesn't loose its legal owner. In this case as we spoke the Territories were under UN administration as per UN Chapters XII and XIII the trustee system was still prevailing.

[Camera]

How did the WB reject the Israeli authority? What about an open conflict for the last 40 years or so?
My references were pretty much textbook Kosher.
If a property gets invaded by squatters, then occupied by police, the property doesn't loose its legal owner. In this case as we spoke the Territories were under UN administration as per UN Chapters XII and XIII the trustee system was still prevailing.

Stop trolling and back pedaling.
I asked about Jordan, not about Israel. You claimed the WB has rejected the annexation by Jordan and, in another post, you pretended that the WB was under UN responsibility in 1967.

Originally Posted by KoTeMoRe You conquered a territory under the direct responsibility of the UN? ... I feared your title was a bad joke. I was wrong.

Sometimes I wonder if you are really that much of a troll. (…) The WB has rejected Jordan as its legal State.

[KoTeMoRe]

The WB has has separate elections from the Jordanian political process, it has a president and a separate Subject of the International Law. That's a serious hint to when has the West Bank rejected the Jordanian authority.

[MUSHROOM123]

You conquered a territory under the direct responsibility of the UN? ... I feared your title was a bad joke. I was wrong.

Anyway,like i said Judea and Samaria didn't belong to any "Palestinian". It was part of Jordan. You can't change this fact.

[KoTeMoRe]

It wasn't. Please stop typing.

[EITAN88]

It wasn't. Please stop typing.

Are you actually arguing that the WB wasn't a part of the Hashemite Kingdom on the eve of the Six Day War?

[MUSHROOM123]

It wasn't. Please stop typing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Bank

from 48-67 it was under Jordanian control!!


The name "West Bank" was proposed by the Jordanian authorities to describe the area west of Jordan River. The 1949 Armistice Agreements defined its interim boundary. From 1948 until 1967, the area was under Jordanian rule

[GB_FXST]

Sometimes I wonder if you are really that much of a troll. GC IV covers entirely this subject. Annexation is illegal bar express vote or signification by the territory annexed. The WB has rejected Jordan as its legal State. It has rejected Israel. I'd refer to this thread for all relevant legal information including why the UNR 181 is the only one relevant and possible the position of global leaders on this issue.
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...e-for-solution

But the Palestinians did accept Jordanian soveriegnity in the WB and Egyptian soveriegnity in Gaza. After all, the PLO's original charter excluded both the WB and Gaza from "historic Palestine." "Historic Palestine" to be liberated by the PLO was limited to only what is known today as the green line. That charter is clear endorsement of Jordanian claims.

It is yet another nail in the coffin of your nonsensical revisionist claim that 181 is the basis for a two-state solution.

That said, I am not in the mood to revisit 181.

The only basis for any resolution to the issue of WB and the Golan is 242. Palis do not like it, fvck em; Syrians do not like it; fvck em too.

[Camera]

The WB has has separate elections from the Jordanian political process, it has a president and a separate Subject of the International Law. That's a serious hint to when has the West Bank rejected the Jordanian authority.

So what do you suggest with this ambiguous sentence? When did the WB rejected Jordanian authority? When was the WB administrated by the UN?

The WB became a part of TRANS-JORDAN which changed her name to JORDAN after shed annexed it. There were few countries to recognize this annexation, the UK was among them.

[KoTeMoRe]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Bank

from 48-67 it was under Jordanian control!!


The name "West Bank" was proposed by the Jordanian authorities to describe the area west of Jordan River. The 1949 Armistice Agreements defined its interim boundary. From 1948 until 1967, the area was under Jordanian rule

France being under German control during WW2 didn't amount to France being Germany. Trolo.


GB: What nail in the coffin? We have two specific issue. Either It's Jordanian territory and Isreal is occupying a Jordanian Territory (CLO) either it's holding up a UN trustee territory (Chapter 12/13).

In every case, Israel is in breach. Doesn't change squat. Furthermore Jordan has relinquished its claims on the WB. This is getting annoying.

To sum up has Israel's claim over eastern Jerusalem accepted by any one in the world?

[MUSHROOM123]

France being under German control during WW2 didn't amount to France being Germany. Trolo.

Whether the "Palestinians" considered themselves as Jordanians or not ,it doesn't matter. What is matter is that they were under their control. You are talking about Israel "breaching" the law like she is the own country to take control over some land. What do you have to say about China,Russia,Uk and others that took control over some land?...