Good luck mate - let us know if it's just like the Katy Perry video-clip!
Just wait till they f_ck your pay up when you hit the fleet as an E2/E3, and you get paid as an E8 with a spouse and 4 kids, then you won't get paid at all for 5 maybe even 6 months straight. I love hating admin pogs or whoever does the pay. They somehow always manage to mess sh_t up!
Good luck
Good luck pal and remember all officers are really giant ants from space, who can only be warded off with a crucifix.
1. Try to not get shot.
2. Try to shoot them first.
3. Remember, if you read it on MP.net it's The Truth and you should ignore whatever it is the "military" tell you. It's probably dead wrong.
4. From the hip is always more accurate. Fact.
Congrats bloke. Remember "Blood for the blood god" is not an official Marine war cry...
Depends. If you're talking about drilling in formation, the most safest spot is to be directly in the middle. The guy in the front is usually the vanguard who will often be crucified for messing up the movement commands, while the guy in the back legs will be visible from behind and will only be safe from most unseen eyes until the command of "To the Rear". The safest spot I would recommend is to be directly in the middle, because you'll be the least visible in case you did screwed up big time.Originally Posted by Breakfast in Vegas
Remember to be the guy in the middle, it may help save your life.
What do you mean by "Always call an M16 a gun." What else is it called? Sorry, maybe it is simple, I am just not familiar with American sayings.
Also, Good Luck to khalifah
Honestly, saying "I need to use the restroom" quietly to your DI is ok..
P.S. You're a nasty poole
In Marine lingo, it is always "rifle" or "weapon". Just one of the quirks.
Thank you.
Thank you Rattfink
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He's not going to have a choice. They have the formation set from tallest to shortest with the exception of the squad leaders. The DI.will set the pace with cadence. Same as drill.Depends. If you're talking about drilling in formation, the most safest spot is to be directly in the middle. The guy in the front is usually the vanguard who will often be crucified for messing up the movement commands, while the guy in the back legs will be visible from behind and will only be safe from most unseen eyes until the command of "To the Rear". The safest spot I would recommend is to be directly in the middle, because you'll be the least visible in case you did screwed up big time.
Remember to be the guy in the middle, it may help save your life.
From what most of my family has told me, it's that they attempt to brainwash you to a certain degree, in an attempt to kill off a portion of your individuality so that you will fit in better in a larger oragnization and unit. In short, they seek to alter your mind and mentality to better fit with their "image". It is important to remind yourself of what they are trying to do so as to maintain your individuality.
My Grandfather realized this after he got out of the military and started studying Psychology and Sociology. In Basic Training, everything is repetitive. You are told things over and over again, or do things over and over again. It is thought that if you are told something enough times, you will begin to believe it, regardless of what you thought before. Even more, you do things as a group. You PT as a group, you run in formation together, you sleep together, you eat together, you get yelled at together, and you get punished together. This is used to destroy any feelings of individuality, so that you associate more with a group and your "reinvented self" than you do with your pre-military self. You are given an authority figure who yells at, punishes, and berates you. This causes an effect similar to Stockholm syndrome where you feel sympathy or bondage with a person who mistreats you. It is also meant to further your commitment towards the people who lead you into battle (which is not always a bad thing, but if you have incompetent officers it may cause undeserving faith and respect towards them). When you enter BT, you immediately receive a haircut, and you are given standard issue everything from socks to uniforms (which everyone else has, and given a serial number identification number. These are used to further the loss of individuality, as after all this has happened, you go into formation where basically everyone looks the same (same haircut, same clothes, all in formation). This is used to initiate you into the slow loss of individuality, as everyone looks the same. On top of all this, stress, sleep deprivation, physical exhaustion and malnutrition are all used to make you more susceptible to what they try to implant within your mind. Granted, they are preparing you for war, but they are also making you more uniform and obedient. It is important to keep in your mind what they intend to do so that you will retain your individualist mind and identity.
Most people realize that they are very different people after having joined the military (most find it very hard to socialize with non-military back in civilian life, others have increased amounts of stress, while some lose interest in things they enjoyed before the military; this is true even for those who have not seen combat). Most of this change occurs in Basic Training and extended military service. Ultimately it is the individualist and social parts of the mind that are changed the most.
My sources for this are my grandfather, my uncles, my father, and my cousin, who all witnessed this when they joined the military. My grandfather realized this as he went through basic training in 1944, and kept it in the back of his mind that they were attempting to brainwash him, and so retained his individuality and his pre military outlook on life. He served during the pacific campaign and by the end of the war he was made a Sergeant Major because of his independent thought and actions. He went on to serve in Korea. At the end of the war he retired from the military at the rank of Captain in charge of a infantry company, again because of his independence in thought and actions.
After the war he became a Professor in both Sociology and Psychology. When writing his doctoral thesis for Psychology, he used Basic Training indoctrination as his subject.
The reason I type all this is because my Grandfather knows I intend to join the military, and wanted to teach me early on how to deal with the experience. Many go in clueless and are the most exposed to the loss of individuality. It is important to go in to the military expecting them to alter the way your mind works, and that you keep it in mind to resist the psychological attacks made on the mind. That way, you can retain who you truly are.
I hope you found this helpful. Good luck there, and wherever else they may send you.
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