Reply With QuoteMaybe you are so kind to define it for us?Originally Posted by Ordie
"states"
Well that's a difference. All these peoples were around before the USA existed, however.
Maybe you are so kind to define it for us?
So the latest constitution of Germany is younger then its American counterpart, oh my goodness. That changes about what? All these nations, even if not in their current constitutional form, had existed for centuries before the Mayflower even stranded on the shores of Virginia.
In your pathetic attempt at trolling you try to present totally irrelevant things as an argument. They're none, I regret to inform you. And if the people of the United States of America raised their voice for a new constitution, for example the renunciation of the presidential system in favour of a parliamentary republic, the US of A wouldn't just cease to exist either. The political cesuras of European nations do not equate to "breaks" but just a different form of national evolvement.
Russia is actually a pretty good example against this illogical attempt of yours to lift the USA on a pedestal. Social sciences tend to date the emergence of "nations" to the year of their first unification under a single banner within certain geographical borders - and as for that terminology, Russia as a nation has been existing since 1547 and the rule of Ivan IV (just with different leaders and different systems of government over the course of the centuries).
From now on I declare anyone who doesn't answer Ordies questions with another question a dumb*ss.
If succeeded, this thread will be absolutely marvellous.
They were all personal estates subjects of dukes, barrons, cardinals and kings.
Just look at the Hapsburg Empire of Charles V.
It's whatever you decide.
That's what makes America great.
Actually we did.
Before the Constitution we had the Articles of Confederation.
Since the adoption of the Constitution we had many amendments.
I proud to say that we never had an Emperor, King, Kaiser, or Dictator.
FYI: Only Kansas dumped the bi-cameral legislature and adopted a non-partisan unicameral system.
Actually it's Nebraska you're talking about.
They adopted the unicameral system in 1934 - but the state prides itself on a foundation date of March 1 1867 nonetheless.
Ordie, it's safe to say the Nebraskans would politely tell you to shut the fuck up would you try to convince them that their state exists only since 1934.
So once again and exclusively for you - constitutional reforms as well as changes in the government system or hostile incursions don't define nations. They don't put an end to them and don't erase histories and cultures. And that's why a new constitution here and there or a Communist intermezzo don't make any European younger than the United States of America.
To cut things short: You're contradicting yourself. Go fap on America's military power or something else.
Ordie just got owned
Meh... Whatever.
America is still better because we don't have a pre-disposed concept of identity.
Anyone can be Americans including people with German surnames like Nimitz and Eisenhower.
Maybe they should use the great words of the Quran and return to their homelands where they can use their faith to improve their own corrupt countries like Saudi Arabia that spend lavishly while their Muslim brothers and sisters in Sudan, Somalia and other places are starving and dying.
Meh... Whatever.
Europe is still better because we have a pre-disposed concept of identity.
Not anybody can be Germans including people with American surnames like Nimitz and Eisenhower.
This discussion is going nowhere
Uh, yeah we do. It's just not one based on ethnicity, but rather on culture, language, and values...
Failure of education is detected.
You know sometimes it is useful to go beyond headlines.
Dude please describe this idea, and how it's working in the USA.
What is this mysterious IDEA?
In boring reality people are attracted by chance to live "a better life" and some nowadays quite obscure possibility to get rich. And to become important. Don't forget this dream so common in asian and middle east communities.
In the case of USA immigrants are met by originating in UK common law system, necessity to master english language, and the requirement to follow quite silly from other side of the pond nationalistic rituals. Beside that newcomers are pressed hard by sometimes quite crazy moralistic, national or regional level social stereotyping. More of it the social pressure to follow the local way of life is in most american states as hard as in quite nationalistic south and east european states.
In terms of social development most of american states are retarded in comparison to W. Europe. I can easily dig few of your posts where even you mention that.
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