German printer of Quran hints at stop amid controversy

[Ordie]

If Salafists are allowed to distribute copies of the Quran in front of the Cologne Minster, then so are Pro-NRW-folk free to hand out their crap in front of Mosques. Oddly enough, the Pro-NRW-guys are perceived as ignorant racists....

Freedom of expression should not have ANY exceptions.
To do otherwise negates the concept of a free and democratic society.

[sgt_G]

Freedom of expression should not have ANY exceptions.
To do otherwise negates the concept of a free and democratic society.

So, what your saying its perfectly fine to run naked in the cemetery screaming "you can't catch me, I'm the gingerbread man" with zero reprocussions.

[Ordie]

So, what your saying its perfectly fine to run naked in the cemetery screaming "you can't catch me, I'm the gingerbread man" with zero reprocussions.

If Berlin has the Love Parade with naked freaks dancing about, why not run naked through the cemetary. I'm sure the dead residents there would not complain.

[AfterEight]

Freedom of expression should not have ANY exceptions.
To do otherwise negates the concept of a free and democratic society.

It's not that black and white TrollKing™ and you know it.

[DS73]

well wrong analogy duck... quran doesnt teach bad things.... on moronic idiot misinterpreted it for what ever gain they want.. be it muslims or even spaghetti worshiping moron.

Quran doesn't teach anything, it's a book. Books don't teach anything, they are read by people. Passive objects, tools.
What people get from reading books is individually biased and depends on book's interpretation. The interpretation usually given elsewhere by other people.
People teach. And it is about people. With names, faces and histories.

If a book tends to atract wrong type of people it tends to be forbidden for further distribution. Some people (I am not one of them) think it's easier that way.
So far quran statistics in Europe is not spectacular. And if such statistics will end with the restrictions to follow specific variants of islam in Europe, only the muslims living in Europe are to blame.

But it is hard to look into mirror, I know. W. europeans had to learn it hard way and only last two centuries do some real attempts.

[Ordie]

W. europeans had to learn it hard way and only last two centuries do some real attempts.

The United States is older than most European nations.

The European idea of nationhood tied with language, culture and norms sometimes conflict core constitutional ideals and principles.
That's why Germans have a hard time trying to grasp free expression over cultural norms.

[sgt_G]

Ordie, have you had your place checked for mold lately?

[AfterEight]

The United States is older than most European nations.

The European idea of nationhood tied with language, culture and norms sometimes conflict core constitutional ideals and principles.
That's why Germans have a hard time trying to grasp free expression over cultural norms.

You really are a fvcking absolute spacker. Think Germany is alone in this? Try pretty much all of western Europe.

As for age, with the exception of the old east block nations, some which were formed way before their inclusion into the soviet union mind you, which nations are yours older than?

[Ordie]

You really are a fvcking absolute spacker. Think Germany is alone in this? Try pretty much all of western Europe.

You guys are still trying to figure out the definition of a nationhood in the wake of empires.

[Macs.]

Freedom of expression should not have ANY exceptions.
To do otherwise negates the concept of a free and democratic society.

There is no total freedom of expression because a TOTAL freedom would conflict with other freedoms and rights.

[Ordie]

There is no total freedom of expression because a TOTAL freedom would conflict with other freedoms and rights.

Give an example.

[Spartan10k]

The United States is older than most European nations.

The European idea of nationhood tied with language, culture and norms sometimes conflict core constitutional ideals and principles.
That's why Germans have a hard time trying to grasp free expression over cultural norms.

I like you Ordie so don't take this the wrong way, but could you please stop giving us Americans a bad name?

[Supplanter]

Give an example.

Are there no laws in the US pertaining to libel, defamation, incitement etc.?

[Silent Reader]

Are there no laws in the US pertaining to libel, defamation, incitement etc.?

I think the standard example is shouting "fire!" in a theater or cinema etc... which could lead to a panic and thus harm others and therefore would not fall under freedom of speech.

[Mujo2000]

Ordie, have you had your place checked for mold lately?

Quote of the week.

I laughed hard at this one.