Macedonia: Five fishermen found dead near a lake north of Skopje.

[Redbeard]

hahaha u really didn't know this??imposibile.anyway i am just publishing a map of BRITISH FOREIGN MINISTRY,a country which decided to leave most of albanian territory outside the borders; http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...3717.27850.136
...And now u will say,no i dont belive them

Like I said in my previous post, those parts were never a part of Albanian state/country/republic, because such an entity never existed prior to Balkan Liberation wars. What that map shows are just regions with Albanian population, which doesn't mean that Albanians were majority in all of those regions at THAT time . Demographics have changed in parts surrounding Albania since the '50s, and everybody who lived there knows what I'm talking about.

[mikoyan.1991]

You do know that other nations have lived in these regions for more than a thousand years, and that in all of those regions, the so called "indigenous" albanian people were in the minority for centuries, until the "son of the nations" Tito, allowed Albanians from Albania to settle those regions, just to appease Enver Hoja, after the historical "NO" to Stalin?

The thing is, Albania as state and country never existed, until after Balkan liberation wars fought against Ottoman Empire. Prior to Ottoman Empire, the regions where albanians live/lived have been part of Serbian medieval state, Byzantium, Roman Empire, etc. So Albania never, as you say it, bordered itself.

You do know, you just like to forget that, as it does not suit your agenda.

WTF are u talking about??? really,is this what u learn in schools ??
all the world knows that albanians are the desecent of antient illyrians.and what u said that ws tito that "welcomed" the albanians from albania in those territories is THE MOST BULL**** STATEMENT EVER HEARED.WE have lived here for thousent of years,untill the slavic population comed from "motherland russia",invading our land.this fact is known in all history books of the world.
these fact u know but is another story that u dont like them.

[Mordoror]

WTF are u talking about??? really,is this what u learn in schools ??
all the world knows that albanians are the desecent of antient illyrians.and what u said that ws tito that "welcomed" the albanians from albania in those territories is THE MOST BULL**** STATEMENT EVER HEARED.WE have lived here for thousent of years,untill the slavic population comed from "motherland russia",invading our land.this fact is known in all history books of the world.
these fact u know but is another story that u dont like them.

Cut the crap of albanian nationalism out of this thread.
Thanks

[valtrex]

Apparently u haven't been good in history.don't u know that the london conference in 1913 decided to give most of our land to our thirsty neighbors? do u know that Albania is THE ONLY COUNTRY that borders ITSELF.

Don't want to derail the thead but the London Conference of 1913 gave also Northern Epirus, an area liberated by the Greek army during the 1st Balkan War and with substantial ethnic Greek population, to Albania. Don't go there, history is not black or white, history is made of different shades of grey.

I'm really curious how are you going to "liberate" the "Albanian" lands under supposedly "Greek occupation"?
My friendly advice: This board here does not tolerate blind nationalisms. If you've come to MP.net to post hateful and nationalistic propaganda, your staying here will be short.
PS: My condolences to our Orthodox brothers in the North. May they find the perpetrators of this heinous crime.

[mikoyan.1991]

This board here does not tolerate blind nationalisms. If you've come to MP.net to post hateful and nationalistic propaganda, your staying here will be short.

well,i was trying not to pass the limit.althought with certain persons is imposibile.
the moderators are in high alert and most likely they are closely seeing my posts so thanks for the advice

[Al-Bundy]

I am out of here!
Have fun!

[themacedonian]

The police has made some raids and some arrests. More to come during the day.

[marat]

aboout 20 arrested. Apparently in Arachinovo ohh what a suprise. Arrested are Albanian islam radicals.
http://www.rts.rs/page/stories/sr/st...akedoniji.html
Sorry only in serbian.

[themacedonian]

Police arrested 20 people in connection with the killings. Charged them with terrorism. Group has travelled or been to Afganistan and Pakistan.

[marat]

Great job for Macedonian police, but unfortunately 5 innocent people need to die before police take actions against those scum.

[themacedonian]

Most were local citizen and some non documented.

[themacedonian]

MVR STROOONG!!

[themacedonian]

http://english.alarabiya.net/article...01/211513.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-w...edonia-murder/

[Zarkus]

So, more then 20 Albanian terrorists arrested... Great job!
Too bad we abolished the death penalty in the late 80's. These scumbag offspring's should get one between the eyes.

Police find perpetrators of grisly murders in Smilkovci village

Skopje, 1 May 2012 (MIA) - Macedonian Ministry of Interior has found the murderers of the five persons near a lake in the Skopje village of Smilkovci. Twenty persons from Skopje, followers of Radical Islam have been arrested, majority of them are Macedonian citizens.
Interior Minister Gordana Jankuloska said Tuesday that the Ministry of Interior will file criminal charges of terrorism against them.
Based on material evidence from the Ministry of Interior they claim that they are the perpetrators of grisly murders of five innocent persons. Some of the arrested persons are directly involved in the murders near Smilkovci village, Jankuloska said and there are persons for whom there are no data that they were on the crime site.
Large quantity of weapons were discovered in the police raid of 26 facilities on the territory of the city of Skopje, in the police action "monster" in which 800 members of police, Security and Counterintelligence Bureau and Bureau for Public Security participated. Also literature was found which points out to ideological affiliation of these persons and other items, which could be used or were used in conducting crime. It is now investigated whether weapons are used in the murders of five persons.
Jankuloska said that main motive most probably was their idea of killing in the Radical Islam and the goal was to create feeling of fear in wider public.
- The motive is their idea, belief and following the Radical Islam, which is dangerous for believers of Christianity, Muslim religion, Jankuloska said adding that some of the arrested persons fought in Afghanistan and Pakistan against NATO troops.
She said that when it comes to terrorism the victims are not always directly connected with the perpetrators or with the motive due to which the criminal act is committed.
- We have suspected that in this case it is about murder where victims are not directly connected with any of the perpetrators however the intention of the criminal act was to create feeling of insecurity and fear in wider population, Jankuloska said.
Asked by the journalists to give assessment on security situation in Macedonia and whether the country is facing with danger of Radical Islam and other possible terrorist attacks, Jankuloska reminded that Macedonia is part of the global coalition for peace and by number of citizens making it fifth according to participation of ARM peacekeepers in mission in Afghanistan.
- And by this the Republic of Macedonia is on the side of the countries that can be potential target of Radical Islamists. We are not underestimating the situation in not a single moment and we are not excluding possibility of Radical movement of individuals or groups. Members of police, Security and Counterintelligence Bureau and Bureau for Public Security are closely monitoring the situation, we act preventively and repressively because nothing should change the way we live, in peace and coexistence of all citizens in Macedonia, Jankuloska said, adding that situation is closely monitored, there are no serious changes however this should not leave us relaxed because it is obvious that followers of Radical Islam are prepared to most gruesome criminal acts and murderers, as it was the one in Smilkovci village.
Regarding the question whether this group is behind some larger terrorist group or acted according to someone's order, Jankuloska said that additional information will be presented in the following period.
Prime Minister Nikola Gruevski was informed about the police action "monster" who visited today the Ministry of Interior.
Jankuloska thanked all citizens who gave useful information, especially all policemen who worked constantly and to media that reported correctly in connection to the event.
On April 13, Filip Slavkovski, Aleksandar Nakevski, Cvetanco Acevski and Kire Trickovski, namely in their late teens and twenties, as well as Borce Stefkovski – who was a 45-year-old man, were brutally murdered on the shore near the village of Smilkovci. They were killed by automatic weapons at close range.
One day later police confirmed that "Opel Omega" vehicle found 10km from the murder site was used in the crime near Skopje village of Smilkovci.
Police questioning arrested persons in “monster” action
Police in Skopje are questioning 20 persons arrested in “monster” action, which will lead to details connected with the investigation of the murders near a lake in the Skopje village of Smilkovci.
The persons have been arrested in several facilities in action conducted early Tuesday in Aracinovo, Suto Orizari, Cair and Cento. They should answer question regarding the found weapons, which was seized in their homes. Interior Ministry said that they found an automatic gun, four pistols, a bomb, eight bullets for “black arrow” rifle, six bullets for grenade launcher, six frames for automatic gun, ten camouflage uniforms, seven tactical vests, a vehicles, around 10.000 euro, computers and cell phones.
It is expected the questioning to last 24 hours. At late by early Wednesday they should be brought before investigative judge in the Criminal Court in Skopje. sk/17:09
http://www.mia.com.mk/default.aspx?vId=93488240&lId=2

[Zarkus]