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    ... Obviously you have not read your own source. Iranians are telling the same thing as me. Israel can afford to pledge a Nuclear Free ME as long as they are not bound by the NPT.

    Soltanieh said another reason for not attending the two-day IAEA forum, aimed at learning from the experiences of other so-called nuclear-weapon-free zones (NWFZ), was Israel's unofficial atomic arsenal.
    Furthermore the Israeli official position is ironically the same than the Iranian one. Israel is linking its NPT participation with political goals (give us recognition, we will join the NPT), yet it accuses Iran of having those political goals with its program (lift your sanctions and we will come off clear).

    I mean this is probably the golden standart of double-talk. Furthermore we see other folks joining in and sayin, If Israel cannot have peace, they should not relinquish their nuclear arsenal. Yet Iran is asked to come free if it does not want war...

    Again a normal, non biased guy looking at this should be bewildered at the level of hypocrisy.

    Furthermore AT NO point did I saw a confirmation Israel would sign the NPT as a non-Nuclear member. By essence the NPT allows for an asymetric relationship, so joining the NPT does not mean giving up its nukes.

    As I said, just like Switzerland advocating for a Banking Secrecy Free Eurozone.

    I can be on YOUR ignore list, you are not on mine. See the fun part...just like the NPT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KoTeMoRe View Post
    Nukes Free ME? Off course Israel is supportive, since it is not an NPT signatory. It is like Switzerland being all for a Banking Secrecy free Eurozone.
    Quote Originally Posted by Camera View Post
    This being said, it's annoying to have your replies to my posts even though YOU ARE ON MY IGNORE LIST. I do not see and do not read your posts, so you should find yourself other partners to discuss with.
    I asked you twice to stop it with no avail. Your behavior is irrespecutful to say at least.
    KoToMoRe, how about honoring Camera's request.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KoTeMoRe View Post
    ... Obviously you have not read your own source. Iranians are telling the same thing as me. Israel can afford to pledge a Nuclear Free ME as long as they are not bound by the NPT.



    Furthermore the Israeli official position is ironically the same than the Iranian one. Israel is linking its NPT participation with political goals (give us recognition, we will join the NPT), yet it accuses Iran of having those political goals with its program (lift your sanctions and we will come off clear).

    I mean this is probably the golden standart of double-talk. Furthermore we see other folks joining in and sayin, If Israel cannot have peace, they should not relinquish their nuclear arsenal. Yet Iran is asked to come free if it does not want war...

    Again a normal, non biased guy looking at this should be bewildered at the level of hypocrisy.

    Furthermore AT NO point did I saw a confirmation Israel would sign the NPT as a non-Nuclear member. By essence the NPT allows for an asymetric relationship, so joining the NPT does not mean giving up its nukes.

    As I said, just like Switzerland advocating for a Banking Secrecy Free Eurozone.
    Pfff… There's no abidance to adhere to the NPT.
    Iran made her choice to do so. She profited from the advantages this treaty provides the signatories and has to comply to her obligations as a signatory state.
    Israel made the choice to not sign the treaty. She was deprived of the advantages the treaty offers as well as the obligations.

    The US, France, Germany… all do criticize Iran for her violations of the NPT. Not Israel.

    One of the reasons Israel refuses to join the NPT are the weakness of the treaty that permitted to dictatorship repeatedly make fun of it, while Israel, as a democratic state, will have to comply to the NPT.

    I can be on YOUR ignore list, you are not on mine. See the fun part...just like the NPT.
    I see the fun part of it: you seem to have hard time to find other members to discuss with.

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    To the moderator:

    A couple of members have me on Ignore (Dave-Dash, C. Puffs). They do not interact with me, even when I quote them. Problem solved.

    Camera has me on ignore, yet he keeps seeing my posts? Unless he is a moderator, that is simply beyond my capabilities as a member. I cannot force him to react. He does that by himself.

    Camera: I am supposed to be on your ignore list. You cannot see my posts theoretically, why are you replying and probably reporting me for something you do not do. I cannot be held responsible for something technically impossible?

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    Why cant we just discuss this as mature people and learn from each other ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KoTeMoRe View Post
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    Camera: I am supposed to be on your ignore list. You cannot see my posts theoretically, why are you replying and probably reporting me for something you do not do. I cannot be held responsible for something technically impossible?
    Your posts are not visible to me and I don't receive any email warning me of your replies.
    However, the "ignore" feature enables me to push a button to watch a single of your posts each time. As I noticed that you continue to reply to my posts despite being "ignored", and as that you continued to do it despite being asked twice to stop with no avail, I watched your post #179 that appeared shortly after mine to check if you were making fun of me.
    And yes, I had enough of and did report you.


    Quote Originally Posted by IRN34 View Post
    Why cant we just discuss this as mature people and learn from each other ?
    Completely agreed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camera View Post
    Your posts are not visible to me and I don't receive any email warning me of your replies.
    However, the "ignore" feature enables to push a button to watch a single post of you each time. As I noticed that you continue to reply to my posts despite being "ignored", and as I asked you twice to stop it with no avail, I watched your post #179 to check if you were making fun of me.




    Completely agreed.
    No comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IRN34 View Post
    Why cant we just discuss this as mature people and learn from each other ?
    I did not make the choice to ignore him lightly. I did it after endless sterile discussions with him.
    If you find my arguments above were instructive for you, I'll be happy to tell you more. If you find the Swiss banking analogy and his expressions of indignation more interesting, discuss with him.

    Cheers

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    Camera, you are as much to blame. Ignore also means do not reply to that person's posts. Other wise, it is as you are just taking shots at that person.

    This is so..........a grade school play ground problem.

    Let's go with IRN34 suggestion from here on, or expect me to interfere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollis View Post
    Camera, you are as much to blame. Ignore also means do not reply to that person's posts. Other wise, it is as you are just taking shots at that person.

    This is so..........a grade school play ground problem.

    Let's go with IRN34 suggestion from here on, or expect me to interfere.
    There's a problem with the "ignore" feature. The feature shouldn't have offered him the possibility to reply to my posts (that were even not addressed to him) and to force me to react.
    The fact he does it repeatedly is upsetting. If he is allowed to do it, this feature is useless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camera View Post
    There's a problem with the "ignore" feature. The feature shouldn't have offered him the possibility to reply to my posts (that were even not addressed to him, and to force me to react).
    The fact he does it repeatedly is upsetting. If he is allowed to do it, this feature is useless.
    Tell you what, if you did not reply to his posts, he would be having the problems. Ignore does not stop a post from being quoted by another members. You should not be able to see their post, when it is the original post. If you are seeing the original post, something is wrong. 1) you do not have them on your ignore list. Click on their name, go to their profile and click on the ignore feature. After that their original post will not show up for you. That does not stop a person from quoting their post and that would make it pass the ignore filter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollis View Post
    Tell you what, if you did not reply to his posts, he would be having the problems. Ignore does not stop a post from being quoted by another members. You should not be able to see their post, when it is the original post. If you are seeing the original post, something is wrong. 1) you do not have them on your ignore list. Click on their name, go to their profile and click on the ignore feature. After that their original post will not show up for you. That does not stop a person from quoting their post and that would make it pass the ignore filter.
    I explained what I did above: http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums...=1#post6195882

    Maybe my explain was not clear enough, but I believe I did action the filter correctly. I can not see his posts. I can only watch a single one of them at the time if I press the "View Post" button that belongs to he specific post.



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    After pressing the button "View Post" of any of his posts , I can read this given post and I'm offered the option to reply to it. That's how I discovered that he continues to reply to me even though he is ignored" and I used the reply feature to ask him to stop.
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    He can view your posts, you can choose not to view and answer, my friend. There is no importance if the forum tools work or do not work, you can choose to ignore anything. At some point I decided to ignore Shelata posts, and never did other thing than do not answering him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KoTeMoRe View Post
    ... Obviously you have not read your own source. Iranians are telling the same thing as me. Israel can afford to pledge a Nuclear Free ME as long as they are not bound by the NPT.



    Furthermore the Israeli official position is ironically the same than the Iranian one. Israel is linking its NPT participation with political goals (give us recognition, we will join the NPT), yet it accuses Iran of having those political goals with its program (lift your sanctions and we will come off clear).

    I mean this is probably the golden standart of double-talk. Furthermore we see other folks joining in and sayin, If Israel cannot have peace, they should not relinquish their nuclear arsenal. Yet Iran is asked to come free if it does not want war...

    Again a normal, non biased guy looking at this should be bewildered at the level of hypocrisy.

    Furthermore AT NO point did I saw a confirmation Israel would sign the NPT as a non-Nuclear member. By essence the NPT allows for an asymetric relationship, so joining the NPT does not mean giving up its nukes.

    As I said, just like Switzerland advocating for a Banking Secrecy Free Eurozone.

    I can be on YOUR ignore list, you are not on mine. See the fun part...just like the NPT.
    Except for that little problem of Iran's stated intention of wiping Israel off the map - a violation of the UN Charter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Climber View Post
    He can view your posts, you can choose not to view and answer, my friend. There is no importance if the forum tools work or do not work, you can choose to ignore anything. At some point I decided to ignore Shelata posts, and never did other thing than do not answering him.
    You don't need the ignore feature to decide to not answer to someone. If he replies to your answers to other members, he derails your discussion with them and you can't even understand how it happened because you don't see his posts.
    That's why in my opinion the "ignore feature" is useless unless if he has the courtesy to stop replying to your posts as he was asked.

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