Reply With QuoteLol, Sherut La'am mandatory would repel them more than the tzaváOriginally Posted by GB_FXST
Mandatory sherut la-am for any citizen who does not want to serve in the IDF or Magav.
Lol, Sherut La'am mandatory would repel them more than the tzavá
The issue of army service for Israel’s haredim and minority groups has become one of the burning issues on the agenda. There is no doubt that some parts of the public bear the burden, while others are not a party to this. However, in my view, we must avoid zealous thinking and come up with a way to ultimately achieve the desired result of seeing the haredi community and other sectors playing their part in bearing the burden.
I admit that I too used to think that all haredim should be drafted into the IDF. However, once I became deeply familiar with the issue I realized this is not something that can be resolved at once. In order to integrate haredim into our education system and job market and allow them to bear the burden, we must work gradually, while showing understanding and engaging in dialogue with the haredi leadership.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...230429,00.html
Last edited by EITAN88; 05-17-2012 at 11:22 AM.
Chief rabbi: Soldiers die when yeshiva students don’t study
Just like there is an Air Force and Navy, there should be a ‘God Force,’ Metzger says
By PHILIP PODOLSKY
Yeshiva attendance and IDF casualties are inversely proportionate, Chief Ashkenazi Rabbi Yona Metzger said Thursday.
Speaking at an IDF ceremony at the Great Synagogue in Jerusalem, Metzger drew on his experience as a soldier in the Yom Kippur War as proof that the IDF suffers more casualties when yeshiva students are not praying or studying Torah.
“When yeshiva attendance is low, as on holiday evenings or prior to the Sabbath, more IDF soldiers are injured and killed,” Metzger said.
He also said that the Israeli military derives its power from religious devotion. “The more Jews study Torah, the more powerful is the army. Just as there is Air Force and Navy, there should be a God force,” he said.
Metzger was apparently making the points in the context of Knesset deliberations on an alternative to the Tal Law, the legislation ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court earlier this year, aimed at boosting military and national service participation among ultra-Orthodox and Arab Israelis.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/chief-r...h-saves-lives/
This is not a new argument by the Ultra-Orthadox but you'd expect Metzger to at least have some basic tact and know better.
Also it's a known fact that Ultra-Orthadox go and study Torah all day in a Yeshiva not because they can't serve in the army but because they don't want to serve.
It's interesting to read that a trend towards religious fundamentalism is not confined to just one religion.
We're seeing the rise of radical fundamentalism in Islam, Christianity, and Judaism.
Muslims going nutty with suicide bombings as human smart bombs being nurtured thru madrasas.
Christians going harder right with trying to push for creationism in schools and the divide between them and the left and quite possibly the middle as well......the Norway slaughter had a Christian fundamentalist component didn't it?
Jews in Israel losing their homogeniety with haredim and Baruch Goldstein's massacre of muslims and fundamentalist aspects of problematic jewish settlements.
Anyone bother to check on Buddhists or Hindus lately? How they fairing......are they managing to avoid the darker fundamentalist stuff or are they getting all stabby too?
Well they always had a lot of different sects, many of which are very extreme.
IDF to establish three new ultra-Orthodox battalions ahead of new enlistment law
Military drawing up plans for mass recruitment of ultra-Orthodox men after successor to Tal Law goes into effect.
By Amos Harel
The Israel Defense Forces is preparing to absorb large numbers of ultra-Orthodox conscripts in anticipation of a new law setting out the terms of Haredi enlistment. The army has withdrawn its years-long opposition to the creation of new separate units, and is proposing the establishment of three new Nahal Haredi battalions that can be integrated into combat forces.
The army's plan for taking on large numbers of yeshiva students after the successor to the Tal Law goes into effect was presented on Sunday, in broad outline, to a committee evaluating alternatives to that law, which the High Court of Justice declared unconstitutional.
The committee, chaired by MK Yohanan Plesner (Kadima), was briefed by Brig. Gen. Gadi Agmon, head of planning in the IDF's Personnel Directorate. Agmon told committee members that the army could establish three additional combat battalions, in addition to and in a format similar to the existing Nahal Haredi battalion. He said the possibility of attaching one of these units to the Air Defense Corps is under review, adding that the IDF is also preparing to expand the number of Haredim serving in the Home Front Command.
The army is also considering the referral of ultra-Orthodox recruits to other security forces, such as the Israel Police and Israel Prison Service. The IDF currently places around 2,700 of its troops each year with these bodies.
CONTINUED: http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomac...t-law-1.434405
According to 'Israel Defense' the first of the three new battalions will be positioned on the Egyptian border.
Makes a lot of sense.
Could start an American Brigade. You'd be fully-manned inside a week, if MP.net is any indicator.
It would be cool if they start a brigade with another name since they are not nahal. They are the Netzá yehuda batallion........
This is probably a given but if there will be 4 Ultra-Orthodox battalions in the IDF then they may as well be incoperated into a single brigade.
Thats the reason I said that they can start a new brigade with a new name. I hate that name nahal haredi
In a way they actually are 'Halutzim'
In a twisted way, they areIn a way they actually are 'Halutzim'
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