Low needs to take some 101 courses at the Italian Tactic Institute of Milan. He was clearly out of touch during this Euro.
Some BVB fan didn't have enough Segs in recent times. It is called 'Rheinischer Frohsinn" (Rhenish joy of life)
I would disagree. If you look at some of the 2010 games, actually worse than we had this time. Ghana? Mediocre performance. Australia? Big deal. Semifinal? worse than this one. A no show. Only the shining moments are kept in memory. Argentina was "coached" by a junkie without any proper tactical awareness and not even proper training schedules. TODAY: We play 11 vs 11 and i scratch my balls. He even dropped trainings sessions and pretty much relied on the game intelligence of the players themselves. (NOT up to the standards of a top nation) and England was a mix of a good game on the German side AND luck. And of course England being major underachievers.
This team was worn out to a point. The Bayern part seemed so. The overall quality is not so much different. They also had a very short time getting together compared to all the other tournaments. And some of the hunngrier and fresh players should have played. But it's not the apocalypse of eternal shame. Germany did suck ALOT in much of the 1990s and early 2000s. I can live with this phase. We're not the 'new' Netherlands or England. Those comparisons are just completely simplified media blah blah
And damn if it's about the conversion of 1-2 goal chances in a do or die situation in a space of a few minutes every two years, **** does happen. It DOES SUCK, but it's also the nature of football.
That's actually typical German. Put us into one room with a topic of choice and we will complain at each other endlessly in pessimistic tirades. Glass is half empty etc.
@Tyon: The 96 cup was a lucky punch in a period of complete disasters and ugly unsuccsessful football. 92 to a point, 94, 98, 2000, solely based on 'old glory'. I'm glad we moved away from that.
In 1996, a golden goal and a penalty shoot out vs England. It was also LUCKY, but our memories betray us. If the golden goal didn't happen and we lost, this group would be remembered as '2nd place' old men and borderline retards. MÖLLER for example. How i hated this guy.
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So Euro is ending soon.
2 weeks of party, 20 years of debt.
That's the Polish way.
and i might add something to my post. Some now criticize the egalitarian style with the broad midfield, a 'weak' captain (Lahm) and good spirited bench players. I ask, how many cups did the "Leaders" Ballack or Kahn give to us. If you have 20 year olds doing good, why putting them in such a stupid pecking order.
Schweinsteiger once explained how Kahn took 2 years before he even talked to him, but instead using Schweinis towels to dry his feet. If this style was still the norm you would not see guys like Reus being so confident on the pitch. You would still have those old men kicking the ball around not allowing youngsters to shine. The end of Ballack was showing alot of this hipocrisy.
Toki: the 2010 and 2012 squad is my favorite of all-time ( wasnt a football fan pre-90s), the only 2006 guy not on the current squad I miss is Frings, loved that guy.
I'm totally with you that the Vogts-Ribbeck-Voeller years were painful to watch.