Last F-22 unpainted

[Minefield]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubeJnqIH_VI

"5/2/2012 This F-22 Raptor to be delivered to the U.S. Air Force is number 195. The aircraft is the last of the F-22's to be produced and put into service by the U.S. Air Force. Production started in 1997 and ended in 2012."

That's it no mo' Raptors!

[SgtFool]

So if that's the last raptor, what will replace it?

[LongShot]

I bet he can see my house....

[C.Puffs]

So if that's the last raptor, what will replace it?

Some other aircraft 30 years down the road.

[Gus]

P-51 Mustang:
built 15,000+, cost $50,985
F-86 Saber:
built 9,860, cost $219,000
F-4 Phantom:
built 5,195, cost $2.4m
F-15 Eagle:
built 1,798, cost $30m
F-22 Raptor:
built 195, cost $150m

A growing (exploding) defense budget does not mean a growing defense. In the real world 195 units would not justify the expense of R&D or the final price tag. But we are not talking about the real world, we are talking about DoD procurement. And what about the next generation fighter, and the next? $300m each for 50 planes? A billion each for five!?!

But my real concern is, can a 195 really do the job? I don't think so.

Okay, vent over.

[C.Puffs]

P-51 Mustang:
built 15,000+, cost $50,985
F-86 Saber:
built 9,860, cost $219,000
F-4 Phantom:
built 5,195, cost $2.4m
F-15 Eagle:
built 1,798, cost $30m
F-22 Raptor:
built 195, cost $150m

A growing (exploding) defense budget does not mean a growing defense. In the real world 195 units would not justify the expense of R&D or the final price tag. But we are not talking about the real world, we are talking about DoD procurement. And what about the next generation fighter, and the next? $300m each for 50 planes? A billion each for five!?!

But my real concern is, can a 195 really do the job? I don't think so.

Okay, vent over.

Problem is you can't beat a Su-35 with a P-51. So your choice is to either lose or pay "Life Insurance", i.e. produce a better fighter.

[JCR]

Those sums are not corrected for inflation.
50.000 in 1940s US $ was a huge sum of money.

[C.Puffs]

Those sums are not corrected for inflation.
50.000 in 1940s US $ was a huge sum of money.

The A-5 Vigilante was supposedly the first fighter literally worth it's weight in gold.

[Seiyuuki]

Problem is you can't beat a Su-35 with a P-51. So your choice is to either lose or pay "Life Insurance", i.e. produce a better fighter.

Just wonder how much the individual price would be lower if we also purchase the bulk quantity of 15,000+ Raptor.

[BigWillyG]

Some other aircraft 30 years down the road.

Probably one without a pilot in the cockpit.

[709]

Those sums are not corrected for inflation.
50.000 in 1940s US $ was a huge sum of money.

In 2012 dollars:


P51 - 661,257.87



F-86 -1,976,886.72



F-4 - 17,359,384.62


F-15 - 39,841,210.59


with http://www.dollartimes.com/calculators/inflation.htm
and I checked wikipedia prices and year.

[Randy M]

I posted this on the wrong thread....

[JCR]

Very cool but this is not a F-22...

[metberkut]

Problem is you can't beat a Su-35 with a P-51. So your choice is to either lose or pay "Life Insurance", i.e. produce a better fighter.

There is any Su-35's to beat?

[C.Puffs]

Probably one without a pilot in the cockpit.

Not likely.