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    Quote Originally Posted by C.Puffs View Post
    China and Russia are allies. Why would the US want to give Russia any sensitive information, knowing it would just end up in China's hands?
    Please elaborate. Which agreement makes them allies, and to what extent are they allies? I am very curious

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    Quote Originally Posted by memfisa View Post
    Please elaborate. Which agreement makes them allies, and to what extent are they allies? I am very curious
    Yeah, I guess you haven't been paying attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DS73 View Post
    How come you are writing here, having no idea about the topic? European countries participate actively in the program, both financially and technologically (more first than second though)
    You can start with documents of Lisbon Summit.
    This joke of Iran already sent small satellites to orbit. At the moment when they get working ICBM they will start playing North Korea game. Blackmailing. Yorop has another 8 years to shield up. And they're working on it.
    US does not bother with Russia really. Russia is not on american priorities list. Latin America and China are.
    The Russians are threatening the US EPAČ not the NATO BMDAP.

    Two different things. The EPAČ is a US component of the National Missile Defence first and foremost and then of NATO. IE the US will have the hand on the trigger, not NATO. Check your facts.

    The NATO Lisbon Summit declaration had this gem.

    Just for your eyes.
    1. The threat to NATO European populations, territory and forces posed by the proliferation of ballistic missiles is increasing. As missile defence forms part of a broader response to counter this threat, we have decided that the Alliance will develop a missile defence capability to pursue its core task of collective defence. The aim of a NATO missile defence capability is to provide full coverage and protection for all NATO European populations, territory and forces against the increasing threats posed by the proliferation of ballistic missiles, based on the principles of the indivisibility of Allied security and NATO solidarity, equitable sharing of risks and burdens, as well as reasonable challenge, taking into account the level of threat, affordability and technical feasibility, and in accordance with the latest common threat assessments agreed by the Alliance.
    2. To this end, we have decided that the scope of NATO’s current Active Layered Theatre Ballistic Missile Defence (ALTBMD) programme’s command, control and communications capabilities will be expanded beyond the protection of NATO deployed forces to also protect NATO European populations, territory and forces. In this context, the United States European Phased Adaptive Approach is welcomed as a valuable national contribution to the NATO missile defence architecture, as are other possible voluntary contributions by Allies. We have tasked the Council to develop missile defence consultation, command and control arrangements by the time of the March 2011 meeting of our Defence Ministers. We have also tasked the Council to draft an action plan addressing steps to implement the missile defence capability by the time of the June 2011 Defence Ministers’ meeting.
    3. We will continue to explore opportunities for missile defence co-operation with Russia in a spirit of reciprocity, maximum transparency and mutual confidence. We reaffirm the Alliance’s readiness to invite Russia to explore jointly the potential for linking current and planned missile defence systems at an appropriate time in mutually beneficial ways. NATO missile defence efforts and the United States European Phased Adaptive Approach provide enhanced possibilities to do this. We are also prepared to engage with other relevant states, on a case by case basis, to enhance transparency and confidence and to increase missile defence mission effectiveness.

    On a side note, the EPAČ is the current Stepstone for the NATO BMD. So please come again to what extent are/will the EU countries financ(ing)/(e) the NATO BMD and why did the NATO Theatre Missile Defense become the Territorial Missile Defense? Please do answer.

    How are Russia and China allies? The SCO is NOT a military alliance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C.Puffs View Post
    Yeah, I guess you haven't been paying attention.
    So in other words, there is no alliance?

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    Loosely connected, still interesting:

    Iran, Pakistan, N. Korea May Pose Nuclear Threat to Russia
    A nuclear-armed Iran, Pakistan and North Korea could potentially trigger regional chain reactions that ultimately threaten Russia's security, the former director of Russia's Foreign Intelligence Service, Vyacheslav Trubnikov, said.
    “Even if Iran, Pakistan and North Korea are not Russian adversaries, their current and projected nuclear potential could destabilize the regional situation. It could trigger a chain reaction of proliferation (Saudi Arabia, Syria, Turkey, Egypt, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan) that gives rise to a new missile threat for Russia,” Trubnikov said in an article included in the digest for an international conference on missile defense in Moscow.
    History shows that relations with unstable states and radical regimes can rapidly deteriorate and their nuclear potential could become a real threat to Russian national security, Trubnikov said.
    That is why Russia needs to work toward mutual understanding with the United States and NATO on the issue of missile defense, he said.

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    Well if if those three countries pose a nuclear threat,don't come crying to Nato for missile shield.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C.Puffs View Post
    China and Russia are allies.
    Only when it suits them to be

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    Quote Originally Posted by memfisa View Post
    So in other words, there is no alliance?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shangha...n_Organisation

    Nothing to see here I guess. Russia selling China a carrier, fighter planes, missiles, and damn near everything else, probably doesn't mean they're friends either.

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    The way I look at it, I see no reason why Russia has to worry about a missle defense system. Considering they are developing their own, they shouldn't worry about stategic balances being altered that much considering that the Missle defense shield is only designed to defeat missles in flight to a European target. Furthermore, Russia has no need nor interest to go to war with its european neighbors or the US, considering that Nato is willing to cooperate with them on this matter in order to find a omni-lateral solution to this impass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C.Puffs View Post
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shangha...n_Organisation

    Nothing to see here I guess. Russia selling China a carrier, fighter planes, missiles, and damn near everything else, probably doesn't mean they're friends either.
    FIY Russia sold China scrap metal which china is converting back to aircraft carrier

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    Quote Originally Posted by burek2000 View Post
    FIY Russia sold China scrap metal which china is converting back to aircraft carrier
    Yeah, I have a bridge for sale. . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by C.Puffs View Post
    Yeah, I have a bridge for sale. . .
    Better don't travel to Czech anymore

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    Quote Originally Posted by wwjs View Post
    Better don't travel to Czech anymore
    LOL! True.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-AWZT View Post
    Somebody still thinks it's 1983.
    Quote Originally Posted by Xaito View Post
    somebody on both sides it seems.
    Business have to be done, defense contracts have to be signed up, politicians need to keep flooding with BS, and nuts everywhere have to be pleased.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragnarok View Post
    Considering they are developing their own, they shouldn't worry about stategic balances being altered that much considering that the Missle defense shield is only designed to defeat missles in flight to a European target.
    Russia has a huge territory, it can develop its own. If some missiles fly to Russia from Europe, will the defence system protect those who launched them?
    I don't think that Europeans can make it but the U.S. can, the strike will be for Europe. Another try - Russia is not populated by idiots as you would figure out from your papers

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