Reply With QuoteOriginally Posted by Sashko
Flightglobal is one of the most prominent and most credible sources.
Arie Egozi is a well known journalist, widely considered being an expert in aviation-related topics.
Funny chit that!
Yeah; I almost lost a key-board because of that comment ...
Hmm, from outside maybe there is some reason. From inside-it was the soviet Jews, which was in many cases not allowed to leave country because of their skills. But there is no USSR for 20 years. When it collapsed "Moscow" lost about half of industry and scientific teams. And it was only the beginning. Many of plants and R&D centers were closed later in new economical reality.
Buying technologies from Israel is not more ironical than buying spare parts from sovereign Ukraine and etc.
Russia is the country on a base of the RSFSR not the SU
Ok. But he should say a bit more about his source as for me.
The Georgian War showed the opposite, actually: that UAVs are close to pointless against a technologically competent opponent.
Russian Armed Forces have wholeheartedly embraced the use of battalion level UAVs for tactical scouting and, even more importantly, for artillery correction, because it was seen as something very relevant to Russian combined arms doctrine.
The only reason why the development of MALE recce UAVs and UCAVs has stalled is because the military doesn't really know what it's going to do with them and without a proper RFP, major aircraft manufacturers aren't even bothering.
At this point, development of a Russian UCAV feels like a "ME TOO!" project without serious tactical doctrine behind it. I am struggling to see situations where Russian Air Force will benefit from use of UCAVs. Is there suddenly a shortage in Russian tactical aviation that I missed?
And don't say "Oo, it's the way of the future!" That's a definition of a "Me too" reason.
i think russian's doctrine is a massive strike and short-term operations. while overwhelmed usa and nato are thinking what to do, operation must be finished. like it was in south osetia. russia has not so long time for operation, like nato in lybia or usa in iraq, or israel, which is fighting everyday.
Israel's defense industry and economy both have still benefited far more from Russian and ex-Soviet scientists and proffesionals, than the other way around.
Israel is simply giving a little back - that's all.
Your line of argument would be comparable to saying that any platform that can be shot down or destroyed in combat is ineffective... such an argument doesn't leave us much to work with, now does it?
AFAIK even though Russia won the war it reached the conclusion that it lacked a proper means of gathering battlefied intelligence (resorting to using Tu-22s for this goal).
I have already provided an example of UAVs being used effectively in conventional warfare and that was when UAVs were (relatively) in their infancy.
I'm not going to claim that UAVs are "the way of the future" as they are clearly the way of present day warfare. You are welcome to believe that Russia is fine without investing more in this field but it seems like the Russian Defense Ministry would disagree with you.
Vast majority of these ex-Soviet Jews in Israel carry lots of bitter feelings towards USSR/Russia.
Decades long history of supporting our enemies turned many Israelis against USSR/Russia as well. "Giving a little back" would mean arming Georgia as much as possible.
Sorry we forgot to send you a thank you note for the Korents in Hizbollah and Hamas's hands
The relations between Russia and Israel improved in the last years, since Lieberman became FM.
The ex-Soviet Russian immigrants keep the Russian culture and language alive in Israel. There's a huge potential for both countries to develop closer relations.
In a personal note, as a Russian-speaker, I don't see myself as someone who keeps the Russian culture and language alive in Israel.
kornets. i think it was reexport via some middle east countries.Sorry we forgot to send you a thank you note for the Korents in Hizbollah and Hamas's hands
Namely Syria.
This reexport of Russian arms to terrorists doesn't seem to bother Russia, while Russia goes on and sells even more arms to Syria.
That is not my argument. I was just remarking that touting Georgian war as a conflict where UAVs played a definitive tactical role is just ridiculous and simply not true.
But Tu-22M IS an intelligence gathering aircraft. It was utilized according to doctrine.
The loss of life is the only reason why you wouldn't use it. Besides that, the aircraft was used for its exact purpose.
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