Reply With QuoteThank you sirOriginally Posted by merk666
Keep dreaming....
Thank you sir
I assume we are talking about before tax.
Russia is 13% (I believe) whereas most European countries are around 40-45%.
indeed. The best part is the sweet retirement... with 70 years or something
Keep dreaming....
In Germany in my experience wages are very different by region and profession. Differences can be in the magnitude of thousands of € per month for us non-management mortals.
Real world example:
I've recently got a bachelor degree in computer science and without work experience in the town where I've studied I'd probably have gotten about 2700€ before tax (quite low by standards for this profession) though with a pay-rise of about 200€ after the probation period of 6 months. I've heard of one former student who started for 2500€ (very low by standards for this profession - to get this much one doesn't have to study in the first place imo) because he didn't want to move to a better location. Same job in Bavaria would be paid MUCH better I've heard.
I've moved to get a better paid job, though not (yet?) to Bavaria.
This page has average salary both gross and net (local currencies and USD):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...y_average_wage
This page has officially set minimum wage, which should be net / after taxes (in EUR):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...y_minimum_wage
http://www.forbes.com/sites/frederic...twice-as-much/
Keep dreaming....
Keep dreaming, actually I am living in Germany and studying engineering. And I know very well how much a worker or engineer gets.
You get 2000€(month) as a worker (after taxes and everything what you have to pay in Germany) for example at BOSCH if you work as a shiftman.
The average salary before taxes for young engineers is somewhere between 35000€-50000€(year), that is something around 1800€ - 2500€(month) after taxes. (no children, single)
What about a Master?I've recently got a bachelor degree in computer science and without work experience in the town where I've studied I'd probably have gotten about 2700€(month) before tax (quite low by standards for this profession) though with a pay-rise of about 200€ after the probation period of 6 months. I've heard of one former student who started for 2500€(month) (very low by standards for this profession - to get this much one doesn't have to study in the first place imo) because he didn't want to move to a better location. Same job in Bavaria would be paid MUCH better I've heard.
I've moved to get a better paid job, though not (yet?) to Bavaria.
You would get around 40000€(year) in Bavaria that's the average salary at least for an engineers. But NEVERwork for a "personaldienstleister"!!!
Thank you very much, but it's a little bit difficult to compare.
In Germany for instance you pay everything taxes, social insurance, health-care insurance and only afterwards you call this "netto" net.
But afaik for example in the USA you pay just the taxes no health care.
Last edited by Grax; 05-09-2012 at 09:39 AM.
^too much zeros?
Sadly no it's per annum.
I'm talking and asking for salary after the tax, because this is the money you have to live through month.
Actually that is why I ask about industry worker salary, because it is a salary of usual citizen and in my country large majority of industry workers have minimum salary, which is far below average salary.
Haven't looked into what I'd get as master yet - but since I've got an opportunity to study and work at the college doing research, I'm going to go for master's degree this fall.What about a Master?
You would get around 40000€(year) in Bavaria that's the average salary at least for an engineers. But NEVER
I'm working for a small company right now with less than 20 employees - we develop software. Wouldn't dream of working for personaldienstleister - unless consulting companies count - those actually seem to pay really well.
I'm just saying that if you are an industry worker (or doing any other job) in a EU country that is not Romania and getting 200 eur after taxes per month, then your superiors are breaking the law by paying you below the allowed minimum.
Here we have around 600 Eur salary after taxes, but in neighboring Hungary workers get ~200 - 300 EUR. Talking about laws, law decide bruto salary, not netto.
Well yes, it can be tricky. I know for sure that some countries on the chart that I provided have netto minimum wage declared, but they also have a certain limit of taxation... like everything you earn up to 5000 eur per year is not taxed etc. Ok, thanks for clearing that up.
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