That simulation also assumed China would be willing to throw away a lot of planes and pilots. Whether or not they would in real life is another story. If the X-47B ever shows up in service though I hope one of it's missions is to act as an airborne missile bay, to be tapped by F-22s/F-35s. Adding something like that to the scenario could introduce a nasty surprise to the Chinese.Originally Posted by Mordoror
So basicaly introducing the "cloud" to upgrade the F-22A's and F-35's to 5.5th gen levels of technology in this aspect of aerial warfare. It is quite an obvious route for 5.5th/6th gen fighter designs to exploit the ever increasing advance of unmanned planes.
On a personal side-note: C.Puffs and Laworkerbee, i am terribly dissapointed by your attitude's towards each other. Hostilities of that kind are unwanted and lower the standards of this forum.
Agreed, that remains a sim
But still raises some concerns about number parity
Moreover if it is to lose old junky Mig21 like planes (or even worse, dronized Mig19/21 as the Chinese have implemented in numbers) to make the F22s expend their offensive/defensive capabilities that's still worrisome
I don't know the details of the simulation referred to.. but if its only F-22s vs. the Chinese air force.. it would be quite flawed in itself - after all the US wouldn't only use F-22s especially against an opponent that most likely would field many inferior airframes mixed with a number of more modern ones. The F-15 / F16 or F-35 could probably take care of many of Chinese aircraft with the F-22s being used more like escorts for them or for high value targets.
The F22 have seen combat many 'a times but lost every one of them, so they put the lid on it as not to get the public knowing.
I have my sources!
Yes indeed, here is a famous dogfight between a Nod F-22 and UN prototype fighter
On thing that the F-22 has done in exercises is cue F-15s. The F-15s remain silent while the F-22 uses it's APG-77 and ALR-94 from 65,000 feet to find opposing aircraft and then directs the F-15s to those targets.
that is interesting.
Also can anyone confirm the truth of the F-22 kill ratio of 20:1 / 25:1 or whatever it is?
Yes because these asian savages are not capable of watching the History channel
I'm reminded of a supposed exchange between Kaiser Wilhelm and a Swiss Sgt : Kaiser Wilhelm made a state visit Switzerland shortly before the Great War. After reviewing an honor guard of Swiss soldiers he stopped to compliment their non-com on the men's soldierly appearance. Half-jokingly he asked the old Sergeant-Major what would little Switzerland do if the Imperial German army invaded them with a force twice as strong. The gray-haired Sergeant thought for a moment before answering: "Then Your Excellency, we would all have to fire our rifles twice!"You should check the sim about a confrontation with China over the Tawain Straights
In that sim, the F22 tooks its toll but was overwhelmed by numbers
How much missiles can carry a Raptor before going bingo ammo ? : 6 (maximum)
There are several variations of the story, which might mean it is bullsh1t, but my point is, A Raptor can have a good chance of scoring up to 6 kills on any plane in the sky and flying home. And you think that is insufficient? when an adversary goes up against the F-22 in numbers (lets say 12 Su-27s vs 3 Raptors) and loses double digits of planes in the first fight, they very well may decided that fighting the US Air Force is REALLY REALLY STUPID. Have you ever seen someone talk sh1t and get their nose bloodied? Quite often they find they did not really want to fight.
$0.02
The thing is ... if there should be a conflict between China and Taiwan /USA... the saving face mentality of the Chinese might prevent them from stopping due to high losses. In addition the rather tight grip on the media would allow them to suffer more casualties than the US before a public outcry would put an end to this if they would be influenced by this at all.
Wrong kind of surprise.Yes because these asian savages are not capable of watching the History channel
I simply hate this gloating about winning tomorrow's wars.
First you win the war, then you gloat.
Don't gloat then. Nobody else here is.
this comment says more about you than what is actually transpiring. It is a DISCUSSION...not gloating. Sorry if the realities or opinions of some insult your insecurities/inferiority complexes regarding some of the equipment one side happens to posses
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