Germany - Left wing extremists, radical Muslims kick off wave of attacks on cops

[Steak-Sauce]

I hope you're all not too fed up with my post, as I generally agree with the point that the Salafists are dangerous. Just one more thing:

Edit: by the way, for the first time I heard a neutral and balanced report about the issue. The reporter explained what Salafists really are (not the friendly Muslim of your neighborhood) and also pointed the provocation of Pro-NRW out. More of this, please!

I'd be more than happy to read a balanced report about the issue in any other newspaper, but I sure as hell doesn't want to read more from this piece of crap brown propaganda "newspaper" Junge Freiheit.

[Astaran]

I'd be more than happy to read a balanced report about the issue in any other newspaper, but I sure as hell doesn't want to read more from this piece of crap brown propaganda "newspaper" Junge Freiheit.

The report I referred to was on our local radio news and they say occasionally rather stupid things (like "Palestinian activists" when talking about Hamas), so it was rather pleasant to hear something balanced based on actual facts

[Hollis]

The radical Muslim, who has several previous convictions for similiar offences, is accused of stabbing two police officers in the wake of last Saturday's violent riots in Bonn.

That is not a good statement, it is like saying part of the job of LEOs is to be a target. How many chances are they going to give this person? I hope that it is not until he get's it right and murders someone.

[Mujo2000]

Kicked off a wave of attacks? Did they all coordinate with eachother? Was it dozens of attacks? I read of three. Maybe a little exaggerated?

[Hexer]

That is not a good statement, it is like saying part of the job of LEOs is to be a target. How many chances are they going to give this person? I hope that it is not until he get's it right and murders someone.

I guess in a way it is indeed. Which is in itself a pretty appaling thing.

Sometimes I think our LEOs should have as much leeway in regard to self defense as in the US.

[muck]

That is not a good statement, it is like saying part of the job of LEOs is to be a target. How many chances are they going to give this person? I hope that it is not until he get's it right and murders someone.

Unfortunately, that's pretty much dead-on. A violent offender with ten or more previous convictions but not one year spent behind bars is no rare occurence in Germany.

Kicked off a wave of attacks? Did they all coordinate with eachother? Was it dozens of attacks? I read of three. Maybe a little exaggerated?

There is indeed a lot of coordination among the various groups of the left wing going on and also the Salafists have started to do the same. To the most part their actions against Pro NRW weren't spontaneous gatherings but planned from the start and they always had a nice detail of Antifa donkeys to give them a civil face (until they'd unholster their cudgels and knives, that is).

I'd be more than happy to read a balanced report about the issue in any other newspaper, but I sure as hell doesn't want to read more from this piece of crap brown propaganda "newspaper" Junge Freiheit.

Junge Freiheit isn't "brown" and by now you can find exactly the same content in the articles of other newspapers as well. Don't shoot the messenger only because you don't like the message.

[N-rg]

Fatal Breakdown after pro NRW demonstration in Köln:
Mastermind of Bali bombings 2002 sneaks through police to Pro NRW protesters with press card.

http://www.focus.de/politik/deutschl...id_749546.html

€: And apparently he runs around free and free of any charges

[muck]

I cannot fucking believe it.

[Tyon]

Junge Freiheit isn't "brown"

You have got to be kidding.

[my name again]

You have got to be kidding.

Leave him , its muck. If it isnt throwing its right arm in the air its not brown.

[muck]

Do you realize that our Constitutional Court annulled the "brown"-label the authorities had given to the JF and criticized the politically motivated ostracization of the newspaper as baseless and violating freedom of press?
It's a conservative newspaper and not any more "brown" than America's Fox News or Britains The Telegraph.
The article's whole content can be found in "non-brown" outlets as well. With that being said, it's funny to watch you guys jerk off to petty partisan labels and giving no second thought to the content itself.

Think what you want, but I won't suffer being put close to "browns".

[Bloo]

I really don't get the honeymoon between the far-left and Islamists. They (supposedly) have utterly different sets of morals/ethics/beliefs. Yet it's unquestionable the two are united on every level these days, from diplomatically/internationally (Venezuela/Bolivia/North Korea coozy coozy with Iran), in NGO's (see Vivia Palestinia's and radical left-wing groups flirtations with Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah, and what have you), and on individual campus levels.

[Silent Reader]

Some politicians of the CDU/CSU and FDP now have suggested to revoke the citizenship of naturalized immigrant Islamists.
Certainly would be a good step to at least get rid of some of them.. but if it really happens...

[Macs.]

I really don't get the honeymoon between the far-left and Islamists. They (supposedly) have utterly different sets of morals/ethics/beliefs. Yet it's unquestionable the two are united on every level these days, from diplomatically/internationally (Venezuela/Bolivia/North Korea coozy coozy with Iran), in NGO's (see Vivia Palestinia's and radical left-wing groups flirtations with Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah, and what have you), and on individual campus levels.

In this case they are not really united, and in the case of the majority of these protestors it's not hardcore leftists. It's just that the salafists and them have a common target which is Pro-NRW. For the leftists that is because they are quasi nazis for them, and for the salafists because they are islam critics.

Now that wouldn't even be a problem if these leftist groups and people who come to these gatherings would openly distance themselvs from the salafists and target them too with their protest. But they don't do that, they are turning a blind eye on them.

So you got this schizophrenic situation where a group of left protestors is protesting Pro-NRW and accusing them of being fascists (which they are not - atleast openly) and right next to them you got the salafists who think it's okay to stone homo******s and believe in the most utter backwards interpretation of islam.

However I do not think that one has to fear a fusion of extrem leftists and salafists because the salafists are so off the ground that they think they are allahs personal mouth on earth and even regard other muslims as second-class people. Ofcourse there is a history of left-wing terrorists and islamic terrorists working together, but I just see the salafists on another level. Their goals are in no way political but narrowed down to sharia and their view of the world, it doesn't seem like they care too much about palestinia for example. (atleast not as a main goal)

[Breakfast in Vegas]

In this case they are not really united, and in the case of the majority of these protestors it's not hardcore leftists. It's just that the salafists and them have a common target which is Pro-NRW. For the leftists that is because they are quasi nazis for them, and for the salafists because they are islam critics.

Now that wouldn't even be a problem if these leftist groups and people who come to these gatherings would openly distance themselvs from the salafists and target them too with their protest. But they don't do that, they are turning a blind eye on them.

So you got this schizophrenic situation where a group of left protestors is protesting Pro-NRW and accusing them of being fascists (which they are not - atleast openly) and right next to them you got the salafists who think it's okay to stone homo******s and believe in the most utter backwards interpretation of islam.

However I do not think that one has to fear a fusion of extrem leftists and salafists because the salafists are so off the ground that they think they are allahs personal mouth on earth and even regard other muslims as second-class people. Ofcourse there is a history of left-wing terrorists and islamic terrorists working together, but I just see the salafists on another level. Their goals are in no way political but narrowed down to sharia and their view of the world, it doesn't seem like they care too much about palestinia for example. (atleast not as a main goal)

Agree 100%.

As for the radical left not criticzing the Salafists, it is most likely because they are afraid of them/angering them isnt worth the trouble.