Reply With QuoteFrom what I could understand with my rudimentary knowledge of Spanish, they plan to retire the carrier Príncipe de Asturias due to budget reasons and age of the ship (by 2018 it would be 30 years old).
Spanish Navy to retire 2 frigates and 1 carrier (?)
only in spanish, sorry...maybe some forum member from spain can add some infos
http://politica.elpais.com/politica/...30_217660.html
From what I could understand with my rudimentary knowledge of Spanish, they plan to retire the carrier Príncipe de Asturias due to budget reasons and age of the ship (by 2018 it would be 30 years old).
Didn't the Philippines say they will get a European frigate soon?
Any chance it would be one of the Spanish ships?
I think she will be an italian Maestrale or SoldatiOriginally Posted by Silent Reader
maybe... I think that Maestrale/Soldati class (Italy), George Leygues class (France), Type 22 class (UK), Santa Maria class (Spain) are all frigates/destroyers class with some surplus that can be moved quick to Philippines Navy
Philippines actually visited Spain last year before they visited Italy early this year. So, it's a possibility.
Navantia claimed in early 2011 had sent a sales team went to Manila, Philippine Army to test future demand. And July to discuss only the Philippine government official expressed hope that the procurement of two types of ships to meet the needs of Philippine military operations, the Navantia follow-up action.
http://www.9abc.net/index.php/archives/1121
They aren't to retire anything, they are going to put them out of the active fleet, and doing just the necessary maintenance. Its just a budget problem.
Retired: L-42 Pizarro, S-72 Siroco, P-61 Chilreu, P-25 Isla Grosa.
R-11 (Príncipe de Asturias), F-85 (Navarra) and F-86 (Canarias) aren´t retired, I guess. They should pass their mid-life update soon. But no money. So they will a reduced operational status (as is the Prince of Asturias now, by the way). The problem appears when operating LHD Juan Carlos I. Then the 9th Squadron will be deployed with her and the Principe de Asturias will be at risk. So when it enters service F-105 Cristóbal Colón.
Thank you very much for clarifying. Guess I should still stay away from Spanish texts
Oh, no.
The newspaper says the two frigates and carrier
Paragraph probably true for the Prince of Asturias (replaced by Juan Carlos I). The two frigates (latest of the class) is not so clear. Of course the dream of the Armada would keep the Prince of Asturias and Juan Carlos in active simultaneously (always operating one of them with Harriers)."...stopped... in restricted activity ... inoperative ... paralyzed ...", waiting in the future be possible to recover its full operation. Experts believe, however, that this is a first step to decommission. And for three reasons: because there is no prospect that the budget situation improves in the medium term, because the vassels deteriorate rapidly if not used and because, due to their age, maintaining them require large investments whose profitability is more than doubtful.---
Probably just budgetary reasons. Look at the USS Enterprise, after 51 years of service it is finally being retired. And look at the Varyag, it was first laid down 27 years ago and it isn't even in fully active service. The Príncipe de Asturias still has many years of service life left.
L-42 Pizarro (Ex-USS Harlan County LST-1196) Newport Class-Built in 1972
S-72 Siroco (Agosta Class Submarine built in 1982)
P-61 Chilreu (OPV-built in 1992)
P-25 Isla Grosa (OPV-built in 1982)
The problem is that the MLU for the PdA right now is too expensive.
Chilreu was built as a trawler in 1988, and was bought by the Fisheries Service in 1992 and sent to Armada.
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