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    According to The Associated Press, the Taliban captured two Pakistani soldiers in Miramshah in North Waziristan, beheaded them, and then displayed the heads on poles in the town. This occurred just one day after Taliban fighters ambushed and destroyed a Pakistani convoy near the town, killing nine soldiers. From the AP:
    A Taliban commander said the military raided two houses in Miramshah on Sunday night, killing a militant commander and several of his colleagues. The militants seized two soldiers during the raids, beheaded them and hung their heads in different parts of Miramshah, said the commander. The intelligence officials did not specify how the soldiers were seized, but confirmed that their heads were hanging from poles in Miramshah.
    The officials and the Taliban commander spoke on condition of anonymity on Monday because they were not authorised to talk to the media.
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    **** that, I wish the Pakistani government would pull all resources and allow the military full authority to royally eradicate this cyst of a virus known as the Taliban. It's nothing but an organized plague on that nation. RIP to the killed, senseless brutality. Swift justice to these criminals.

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    Rip.............

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    Those soldiers were murdered and to top it off they put their heads on poles in the town, most likely to terrorize the populace that the Pak Army cant help them.

    This is a grave insult to the Pakistan Army and must be avenged. May the murdered soldiers rest in peace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KillerBD View Post
    **** that, I wish the Pakistani government would pull all resources and allow the military full authority to royally eradicate this cyst of a virus known as the Taliban. It's nothing but an organized plague on that nation. RIP to the killed, senseless brutality. Swift justice to these criminals.
    I'm worried that the leadership is too split in it's loyalties to effectively eradicate anything apart from hope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KillerBD View Post
    **** that, I wish the Pakistani government would pull all resources and allow the military full authority to royally eradicate this cyst of a virus known as the Taliban. It's nothing but an organized plague on that nation. RIP to the killed, senseless brutality. Swift justice to these criminals.
    Sounds like the definition of "Reaping the Whirlwind." RIP to the soldiers just trying to defend their country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KillerBD View Post
    **** that, I wish the Pakistani government would pull all resources and allow the military full authority to royally eradicate this cyst of a virus known as the Taliban. It's nothing but an organized plague on that nation. RIP to the killed, senseless brutality. Swift justice to these criminals.
    The Pakistani government is walking a fine line between doing what their people want and doing what America wants, and they always consider what is most likely to allow them to retain a semblance of control over a large portion of their population and territory. That's why, among other things, they always fuss when we shoot Hellfires into Pak territory and are loathe to allow foreign forces to operate on their soil, even in hot pursuit.

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    What I'm wondering is if they were foreign Taliban or indigenous Taliban.
    From what I've read/heard, the indigenous Taliban isn't too into beheading/bombing their own people. The foreign fighters like to do this more though.
    Can anyone confirm or deny this, or at least shed more light on it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by socom6 View Post
    Those soldiers were murdered and to top it off they put their heads on poles in the town, most likely to terrorize the populace that the Pak Army cant help them.

    This is a grave insult to the Pakistan Army and must be avenged. May the murdered soldiers rest in peace.
    Of course it was to terrorize the locals. Also, when the Taliban do things like this (as has AQ, including in Iraq) the translation frequently uses the word "slaughter", though it is often just reported in the west as "killed". Why this is so frequently mistranslated, I can't say, but the word "slaughter" generally refers to the way animals are killed before being butchered - having their throats cut so they bleed out. In short, when the Taliban says that they've slaughtered someone, they're also trying to make them less than a person. Just an animal. In this case, in addition to intimidating the local civilians (though I'm not sure how many would be scared in Miram Shah - there are probably some parties going on) they are thumbing their noses at the Pak army.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Impartial Bias View Post
    What I'm wondering is if they were foreign Taliban or indigenous Taliban.
    From what I've read/heard, the indigenous Taliban isn't too into beheading/bombing their own people. The foreign fighters like to do this more though.
    Can anyone confirm or deny this, or at least shed more light on it?
    It's best to think of the Taliban as tribally Pashtun, rather than giving them a nationality of Afghani or Pakistani. Foreigners are by an large AQ or other groups. Chechens are pretty bad dudes.

    Now we need to define who the Taliban consider to be their own people? In Afghanistan, it isn't the Tajiks, Hazaras, or the Persians out west. The Pashtuns are the dominant ethnic/tribal group in east central to southern Afghanistan, with corresponding areas across the border in Pakistan. In the case of this article, the city of Miram Shah is in the heart of Taliban territory, and has been for many years. I suspect that they didn't consider cutting the heads off these Pakistani soldiers as taking action against their own people.

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    @ James
    ..... I understand your use of "....their own people." Do you know if there is a "pay back" culture in the PAK Army that might do something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JUNKHO View Post
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    @ James
    ..... I understand your use of "....their own people." Do you know if there is a "pay back" culture in the PAK Army that might do something?
    I don't know, to be honest. I don't have a great deal of knowledge about the Pak Army (my contact with them was responding to requests about why we were engaging targets inside their country; Answer: Someone over there was shooting at us). I believe that many of their troops in Waziristan and the NW Frontier are locally recruited militia, rather than regular Army. But, I just don't know - I was never in Pakistan. Very very close, but never across the frontier.

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