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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyusu View Post
    No. Nobody is required to pay taxes just because he is citizen. One only pays taxes where one lives.

    Some one told me US citizens have to pay tax in the us even if they live abroad.
    I've been living in Australia for 17 years now and I don't have to pay tax in Germany .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyusu View Post
    No. Nobody is required to pay taxes just because he is citizen. One only pays taxes where one lives.
    That's not true for US citizens. I am not sure about other nations but don't assume that your statement is universally true.

    U.S. citizens and resident aliens abroad

    The U.S. requires its citizens to file tax returns reporting their earnings wherever they reside. However, there are some measures designed to reduce the international double taxation that results from this requirement.[5]
    First, an individual who is a bona fide resident of a foreign country or is physically outside the United States for an extended time is entitled to an exclusion (exemption) of part or all of their earned income (i.e. personal service income, as distinguished from income from capital or investments.) That exemption is $91,400 for 2009, pro-rated.[5] (See IRS form 2555.)
    Second, the United States allows a foreign tax credit by which income taxes paid to foreign countries can be offset against U.S. income tax liability attributable to foreign income. This can be a complex issue that often requires the services of a tax advisor. The foreign tax credit is not allowed for taxes paid on earned income that is excluded under the rules described in the preceding paragraph (i.e. no double dipping).[5]
    Generally if you are paying taxes in the country of residence and counting in the income exemption you will not owe the US any taxes, however for very high incomes you may.

    My question related to Switzerland though, I was wondering if Switzerland requires its citizens (incl. dual citizens) to report income earned and taxes paid abroad.

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    How can she support this socialist hell ?

    Pretty clever idea with the anchor babies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macs. View Post
    How can she support this socialist hell ?
    "Socialist hell" is a comfortable environment for some of the denizens of Scandesota.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breakfast in Vegas View Post
    That's not true for US citizens. I am not sure about other nations but don't assume that your statement is universally true.



    Generally if you are paying taxes in the country of residence and counting in the income exemption you will not owe the US any taxes, however for very high incomes you may.

    My question related to Switzerland though, I was wondering if Switzerland requires its citizens (incl. dual citizens) to report income earned and taxes paid abroad.
    Well it may be true for some countries(although i dont think there are many with such rules). But its not like they can do anything about it anyway. They cant look into you local bank account(and in most cases they dont even know where you live anyway).

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    A interview in English with M.B. from the Swiss National TV

    http://www.tagesschau.sf.tv/Nachrich...st-Schweizerin

    http://www.nzz.ch/nachrichten/politi....16820450.html

    She was even asked, if she would run for office in Switzerland now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breakfast in Vegas View Post
    My question related to Switzerland though, I was wondering if Switzerland requires its citizens (incl. dual citizens) to report income earned and taxes paid abroad.
    No, you don't have to pay Swiss taxes, when you don't live here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seasch View Post
    No, you don't have to pay Swiss taxes, when you don't live here.
    OK, thanks for the info!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breakfast in Vegas View Post
    OK, thanks for the info!
    Didn't you just say you're a Swiss citizen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyusu View Post
    No. Nobody is required to pay taxes just because he is citizen. One only pays taxes where one lives.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bleifuss View Post
    Some one told me US citizens have to pay tax in the us even if they live abroad.
    I've been living in Australia for 17 years now and I don't have to pay tax in Germany .
    When I lived in Japan, my Canadian co-workers had to pay taxes to Japan and Canada. I only paid taxes to Japan. At the time, any income less than $90,000 per year was non-taxable in the US for Americans living abroad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gaijinsamurai View Post
    When I lived in Japan, my Canadian co-workers had to pay taxes to Japan and Canada. I only paid taxes to Japan. At the time, any income less than $90,000 per year was non-taxable in the US for Americans living abroad.
    And how did Canadian tax agency found out what he was earning in Japan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyusu View Post
    And how did Canadian tax agency found out what he was earning in Japan?
    Unlike the US, the Canadians have functioning and respected intelligence services

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    Maybe she can learn to fellate Swiss franks over there now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronnieraygun View Post
    A few things: I believe I have met several American Jews whose grandparents emigrated from Germany. I believe they are eligible to go back under right of return. Unsurprisingly, none wish to do so.

    If they had such a thing as right of return in Sweden or Croatia, I don't think I could do it. I'm an American and my ancestors left such places for a reason. So, what's her excuse? She ran for president at one point and is somehow going to even come anywhere near being a citizen elsewhere? I don't think that's right at all. I suspected she was batshit crazy, but this is downright hypocritical. Let's see who comes in here to justify this. Maybe the Swiss won't let her in when they discover "pray the gay away."
    Not sure how Swedes do it, but you could get your Croatian passport if you can prove ancestry. I am pretty sure they'd be excited to have you. You don't have to "go back". It doesn't involve going back. There are plenty Croatians abroad who still have Croatian passports. They were not born in Croatia, but are anywhere from second to fourth generation immigrants to their respective countries (Australia, Canada, etc.)

    On topic.

    I wonder why her kids wanted the Swiss citizenship. They want something for free? They want to enjoy some socialist, communist benefits?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mujo2000 View Post
    I wonder why her kids wanted the Swiss citizenship. They want something for free? They want to enjoy some socialist, communist benefits?
    I know you are joking, at least I hope so but Switzerland has no socialist or communist government.

    The "Partei der Arbeit" (communist) had 0.5 % of votes in the last election.

    The "Sozialdemokratische Partei" (workers party, has some socialist tendencies, mostly in the youth organisations, but not overall) has 18.7 % and has 2 out of 7 members of the Swiss Federal Council, the rest being from center-right or right parties.

    Switzerland has a very pro-private-enterprise government with many large international companies (Nestlé, UBS, CS, Roche, Novartis, ABB, etc.). These companies would not be here, if Switzerland was socialist or communist!

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