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Rest in Peace. Tragic outcome, horrible photo.
If the causes aren't conclusive the catastrophic results certainly are
The pilot did request permision to descend to 6,000 ft. FWIW, the mountain peak is at 7,200 ft.Originally Posted by Xaito
Very sad, RIP to the crew and passengers. Hope the investigation helps prevent this happening in the future.
This is possibly the last picture of the plane, showing the SSJ #97004 just after take off: http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/lookm...6/original.jpg
+ RIP + Crew
these pics are very sad...all smiling not knowing that they will be dead soon...
Seeing the crash site it seems like an almost 100% CFIT. My guess is that he wanted to make some low level scenery flight through the valleys to offer the potential customers an outstanding experience. Not a good idea in such a fast jet and over unfamiliar terrain with fast changing visual conditions.
Good post of pilot used to fly there:
http://gerryairways.blogspot.com/201...akarta-my.htmlThere are questions, one of them:
"Mount Salak is over 7000 feet high, and they were given permission to descend to 6000 feet?"
There are no information that the ATC granted the request.
I've flown around that area a lot in the past. It's nice and scenic in VMC. But between Mt. Salak and Mt. Pangrango, one has to have their wits around and not have a lapse of situational awareness. Some very strange winds are up there, and conditions are unpredictable even in VMC, and in IMC, it's damn awful. I must thank my fortunes to not have to go through the pass between those two mountains anymore these days!.
If they had reached FL150 as reported, they would have had to descend prior to reaching the 30NM mark. Sounds easy enough. BUT, late afternoon in that area is normally not good for flying. I've seen clouds "collapsing down the side of Mt. Salak and spread across and cover the whole pass towards Pangrango before (I turned back... being in an unpressurized prop twin w/ no WXR). Quite often in the mid afternoon, clouds would cover both mountains, and only reveal Pangrango, and Salak is totally covered... looking like a big cumulus over small area undercast...
update
pardon for misleading, previous pics are correct.
Last edited by M0P03; 05-10-2012 at 08:04 AM.
RIP. So, 90% on 'pilot error' there...
RIP and please don not take conclusions before its known what happened.
Bad year for Russian passengerjets..
RIP people.
RIP. Seems to be pilot error
how do you know? based on what?
Based on what I've read so far. What's next? I'm trolling again?
we shall see, but I've read about flying in mountain areas before in it was mentioned that visibility can get extremely low at times because of clouds and fogs - that coupled with pilots who like a challange and sometimes risk too much can easily lead to catastrophe.
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