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    Quote Originally Posted by icefrog View Post
    Based on what I've read so far. What's next? I'm trolling again?
    No, you are talking out of your a.., You dont know what happened, as nobody knows at this time, so dont play the blame game until somebody who really knows tell us what happened.

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    May the passengers and crewmembers rest in peace.

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    + Rest In Peace +

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    I count 4 Russian passengerjet crashes in less than one year..?? That's a terrible statistic :/

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    Rest In Peace for all passengers and crews!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Climber View Post
    No, you are talking out of your a.., You dont know what happened, as nobody knows at this time, so dont play the blame game until somebody who really knows tell us what happened.
    People have the right to speculate based on what they have read so far. It's not like I said it in absolute terms. Notice I used the words "it seems". Countries have gone to war on false information/intelligence. If you know where I am going to next... w/c I rather not then you'll let people speculate all they want on these small things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flamming_Python View Post
    Piece of sh!t plane
    Coming from a Russia Strong! guy, i am surprised.

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    http://gallery.me.com/sdolya#102194/...&bgcolor=black

    They had video recording in the cockpit, I wonder if the recording was a) rolling (as it doesn't look like a part of FDR, but an add-on), b) able to survive the impact (probably not the cameras, but memory sticks most likely did) c) will be found d) will be made available (fat chance)

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    Poor people. That .me slide show shows Russians and Indonesians together, having fun. It makes me feel sad to know that at least some of them are departed.

    RIP.

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    Medvedev Sets up Commission to Investigate Superjet Incident


    Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev has established a commission to investigate the incident with the Sukhoi Superjet 100 aircraft that went missing in Indonesia on Wednesday, the government press service reported.
    The Industry and Trade Ministry’s Yury Slyusar will head the commission, which also comprises Foreign Ministry and United Aircraft Corporation officials.
    The jet disappeared from radar screens during a demonstration flight near Jakarta with 50 people, mainly foreigners, on board. Indonesian authorities suggested the airplane may have been hijacked or crashed into a mountain in poor visibility.
    A search operation is underway.
    Rescuers Inching Toward Crash Site


    Teams of Indonesian army troops and emergencies personnel are inching up the nearly vertical face of Mount Sakal toward the site where a Russian-made Sukhoi Superjet 100 crashed on Wednesday with 45 people on board, a spokesman at the crisis center set up at Jakarta’s airport told RIA Novosti on Thursday.
    The lead group is currently located about 200 meters below the crash site.
    The teams are making ladders and carving out ledges for use in hauling out the larger pieces of debris from the plane. It was the first ever crash of this type of aircraft.
    The operation will most likely be suspended when night falls in the next few hours.
    The searchers have so far discovered no sign of any crash survivors.
    Sukhoi Civil Aviation President Vladimir Prisyazhnyuk earlier said he thought the teams climbing the heavily forested ridge would reach the crash site before nightfall.
    “The climb to the crash site will take six to eight hours, but since the operation began this morning, they will make it to the spot very soon,” he said.
    The crisis center earlier reported that a helicopter-borne search team had begun collecting body fragments at the mountain site, an official at the crisis center told RIA Novosti.
    However, Russian blogger Sergey Dolya, part of the Russian delegation at the emergency center in Indonesia, reported on his Twitter feed that the team had been unable to land and that there are still no searchers at the crash site.
    Russia’s acting Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin said experts believe the "human factor" was the most probable cause of the fatal crash of the aircraft.
    “Experts say that all [aircraft’s] equipment functioned smoothly. In other words, it could be some kind of a human error,” Rogozin told journalists.
    Rogozin maintained the aircraft is competitive and has “a bright future,” despite the tragic crash.
    The jet disappeared from radar screens during a demonstration flight near Jakarta on Wednesday, and apparently slammed into a steep mountainside at Mount Salak, outside the capital Jakarta, Indonesian television reported.
    There were 45 people on board, including eight Russians, one American, one French, two Italians and 33 Indonesians, Prisyazhnyuk said on Thursday.
    Sergey Dolya has reported via Twitter that three of the 48 people listed on the manifest did not in fact board the flight.

    Contact with the Superjet was lost after the pilots requested and received permission to descend to 6,000 feet from 10,000 feet, a spokesman for Indonesia’s air traffic control told RIA Novosti.
    There was a low overcast at the time of the crash.
    Pictures broadcast on television showed what is believed to be debris from the Superjet at the crash site on a very steep slope near Mount Salak. Other debris from the plane tumbled down the mountain.
    Only small pieces of debris were visible in pictures from the Indonesian aviation authorities shown to journalists.
    The plane apparently almost made it over the mountain. The crash site, located at an estimated altitute of 5,200 feet, is just a few dozen feet below the top of the ridgeline at that spot.
    Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev has established a commission to investigate the incident, the government press service reported earlier on Thursday.
    Deputy Industry and Trade Minister Yury Slyusar will head the commission, which includes officials from the Russian Foreign Ministry and United Aircraft Corporation, the Russian holding that owns Superjet manufacturer Sukhoi.
    Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono later authorized formation jointly with Russia of a crash investigation group.
    “I have given the order to conduct a thorough investigation of this tragedy,” Yudhoyono told local television. “I cannot say anything about the causes of the incident. I ask that Russian and Indonesian aviation specialists tackle this.”
    United Aircraft Corporation head Mikhail Pogosyanis due to arrive in Jakarta by 7 p.m. local time on Thursday. He will be joined later in the evening by the head of Rosaviatsia Alexander Neradko and the acting head of the Industry and Trade Ministry Denis Manturov.
    The aircraft's two existing users, Russia's main airline Aerolfot and Armenia's Armavia, both said on Thursday they had no plans to ground their Superjets in connection with the accident.
    The Sukhoi Superjet is Russia's only civil airliner in production in significant numbers, and is regarded by many aviation industry analysts as Russia's last hope of remaining as a player in civil aerospace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Max2- View Post
    Coming from a Russia Strong! guy, i am surprised.
    There are some people who're lobbing AN-148. In this case they know everything without black boxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Euroamerican View Post
    Poor people. That .me slide show shows Russians and Indonesians together, having fun. It makes me feel sad to know that at least some of them are departed.

    RIP.
    Indeed, those pics give the victims that would otherwise stay more or less anonymous to me a face, an identity.

    May they rest in peace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by icefrog View Post
    People have the right to speculate based on what they have read so far. It's not like I said it in absolute terms. Notice I used the words "it seems". Countries have gone to war on false information/intelligence. If you know where I am going to next... w/c I rather not then you'll let people speculate all they want on these small things.
    Do as you please, myself I would wait to blame someone on being the responsible on others people fate.

    And what countries does or did have nothing to do with what we do here.

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    One ****ing demonstration flight. Flown by some of Russia's most experienced pilots. My ass it's pilot error. How can we release a plane such as this, risking people's lives, if even the best aces aren't able to guide it around in apparently reasonable weather?

    How much blood has been spilt already in Russia, by ****heads who cut corners like this? I am very sorry in advance if I am wrong, but I don't believe I am - someone at Sukhoi deserves the NKVD Tokarev Pistol to the back of the head treatment. Either they released it for purchase prematurely, or they just plain didn't give a ****.

    If they were approaching a mountain/land, why didn't the warning system go off; why wasn't this heard over the radio? Why did it take so long to find the plane? Aren't they supposed to come with some kind of beacon or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by geolocator View Post
    There are some people who're lobbing AN-148. In this case they know everything without black boxes.
    I could care less about the An-148. It's probably the same pile of ****.

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