Russian Sukhoi Superjet 100 missing during testflight

[kamazz]

One ****ing demonstration flight. Flown by some of Russia's most experienced pilots. My ass it's pilot error. How can we release a plane such as this, risking people's lives, if even the best aces aren't able to guide it around in apparently reasonable weather?

How much blood has been spilt already in Russia, by ****heads who cut corners like this? I am very sorry in advance if I am wrong, but I don't believe I am - someone at Sukhoi deserves the NKVD Tokarev Pistol to the back of the head treatment. Either they released it for purchase prematurely, or they just plain didn't give a ****.

its too early to speculate if its mechanical or pilot error, but its true that Russia's culture of cutting corners is very deadly, it goes back to Soviet days, where cutting corners and making 'haltura' was accepted, since there was no consumer industry where companies are actually liable for their products. I was reading in NY Times that something like 70 engineers at SU got their engineering degrees by bribing the school. Absolutely unacceptable and shameful.

[Flamming_Python]

its too early to speculate if its mechanical or pilot error, but its true that Russia's culture of cutting corners is very deadly, it goes back to Soviet days, where cutting corners and making 'haltura' was accepted, since there was no consumer industry where companies are actually liable for their products. I was reading in NY Times that something like 70 engineers at SU got their engineering degrees by bribing the school. Absolutely unacceptable and shameful.

In the Soviet times, some how or other - we actually managed to make some of the best equipment in the world. Now though - hearing our leaders boast of the same things; but with bull**** such as this going on - it just seems like a joke. A sad, bloody, tragic joke.

[Andy_UA]

In the Soviet times, some how or other - we actually managed to make some of the best equipment in the world. Now though - hearing our leaders boast of the same things; but with bull**** such as this going on - it just seems like a joke. A sad, bloody, tragic joke.

Sometimes better shut up then talk... Do you know how many crashes and malfunctions was during SU years.... In 1986 there was more than 10 ICBM and space rocket crashes IIRC. Planes were falling out of sky because of drunken pilots and lack of technology culture etc. in those times too.
Of course ts was all classified, but now you can look up the numbers. It was large number - both in civilian and military areas.

[Flamming_Python]

Sometimes better shut up then talk... Do you know how many crashes and malfunctions was during SU years.... In 1986 there was more than 10 ICBM and space rocket crashes IIRC. Planes were falling out of sky because of drunken pilots and lack of technology culture etc. in those times too.
Of course ts was all classified, but now you can look up the numbers. It was large number - both in civilian and military areas.

We produced and exported 10x more back then too. The figures back then weren't any higher than for the rest of the world I believe. And look at us now..

[kamazz]

In the Soviet times, some how or other - we actually managed to make some of the best equipment in the world. Now though - hearing our leaders boast of the same things; but with bull**** such as this going on - it just seems like a joke. A sad, bloody, tragic joke.

maybe with some military products like ICBMs and tanks, the rest of manufacturing was sh-t. The best car produced in CCCP was Lada. You compare Lada to any cheap Asian import at that time and its clear what a piece of crap that car was. And dont get me started with the Zaporojets and Moskvitch.

Most consumer products (except for kids toys) were total crap.

[Ardaingeal]

One ****ing demonstration flight. Flown by some of Russia's most experienced pilots. My ass it's pilot error. How can we release a plane such as this, risking people's lives, if even the best aces aren't able to guide it around in apparently reasonable weather?

How much blood has been spilt already in Russia, by ****heads who cut corners like this? I am very sorry in advance if I am wrong, but I don't believe I am - someone at Sukhoi deserves the NKVD Tokarev Pistol to the back of the head treatment. Either they released it for purchase prematurely, or they just plain didn't give a ****.

If they were approaching a mountain/land, why didn't the warning system go off; why wasn't this heard over the radio? Why did it take so long to find the plane? Aren't they supposed to come with some kind of beacon or something?

Yeah, because experienced pilots have NEVER made simple mistakes before.

[Flamming_Python]

maybe with some military products like ICBMs and tanks, the rest of manufacturing was sh-t. The best car produced in CCCP was Lada. You compare Lada to any cheap Asian import at that time and its clear what a piece of crap that car was. And dont get me started with the Zaporojets and Moskvitch.

Most consumer products (except for kids toys) were total crap.

No you are wrong. There were two sorts of industrial production in the USSR; category 'A' (military, space program, nuclear & power generation, special types of vehicles, etc...), and 'B' (consumer goods). A was very good, B - nobody could give a crap about.

[Flamming_Python]

I was reading in NY Times that something like 70 engineers at SU got their engineering degrees by bribing the school.

And now - 7000.

[Void121412]

Rest In Peace to the victims.

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Indonesia searchers find bodies at Russia jet wreckage

Rescuers at the wreckage of a Russian Sukhoi Superjet plane that crashed into mountains in Indonesia on Wednesday say they have found no sign of survivors.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-18015534

May they rest in peace.

[Xaito]

One ****ing demonstration flight. Flown by some of Russia's most experienced pilots. My ass it's pilot error. How can we release a plane such as this, risking people's lives, if even the best aces aren't able to guide it around in apparently reasonable weather? How much blood has been spilt already in Russia, by ****heads who cut corners like this? I am very sorry in advance if I am wrong, but I don't believe I am - someone at Sukhoi deserves the NKVD Tokarev Pistol to the back of the head treatment. Either they released it for purchase prematurely, or they just plain didn't give a ****. If they were approaching a mountain/land, why didn't the warning system go off; why wasn't this heard over the radio? Why did it take so long to find the plane? Aren't they supposed to come with some kind of beacon or something?

you're talking out of your ass. please stop, it's not helping the situation.

[That One Guy]

Whether the cause is human or technical, this is a major, big-time snafu, and it's f*cking terrible. It's getting really hard to argue that Russian civil aviation isn't long overdue for a ruthless intervention, but who will do it?

[Dingor]

RIP to the victims.

[mhpr262]

that is one hell of a mountainside o_O

[vrb]

Well well well. A terrible tragedy and some are trying to make this a Russian=crap debate. The Sukhoi Superjet has a large number of foreign components. Any of these could have contributed to the crash. Does this mean that the countries who produce these components simply produce crap? No it doesn't. Off course nobody has ever died during a demonstration flight before have they? *cough* a320 *cough*
All we have is speculation and some photos that show the Terrain warning system with a fault/off light on it.

http://aeroblogger.com/home/wp-conte...tor-Update.png

Just before the flight