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    Quote Originally Posted by ea8 View Post
    facepalm

    Russians (soviet, communits whatever) saved Europe and world from nazis.
    By replacing one oppressor with themselves as oppressors

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    Quote Originally Posted by TG211 View Post
    One should have been dressed in Russian gear not to make it so one-sided.

    But still : Damn, nazis got style with their uniforms !
    Reality is it shouldn't have been done period. Those children are way to young to even understand what it is they are seeing and being told. There's no way for them to contextualize it. Maybe better for a 5th grader level during history class.

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    At that age i remember we visited few military shows and we had military band visiting on independence day.

    Maybe they see it as a bit similar to that, though to me it seems weird.

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    LD, that's the wise words. They shouldn't do it at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slinky View Post
    yeaaah...you totally missed my point. Maybe read my quote of your post and my answer again, and my post had nothing to do with your question'

    "You didn't get the picture It wasn't reenactment. IT was "one sided" history teaching. The second part of war history is undesirable in Latvia"

    So you cant live with the fact that someone somewhere on planet earth actually does NOT like the Russians and their actions towards ones nationality during and after the second World War?

    No. I just don't like that someone somewere on planet Earth still masturbate on Hitler's images and pretend that this is their own and saint national point of view to the history of WW2.

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    There were images of Hitler involved?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PEMM View Post
    There were images of Hitler involved?
    C'mon, pal! You're adult already. There were "images od Vermaht's uniform" involved. Just let's your brain "start'n'work". This uniform has quite certain associations if you didn't mind, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LineDoggie View Post
    Just like the Soviets were?
    The Soviets were until the Nazis were defeated. I'd like to know what really happened that made Stalin so paranoid about the West? General Patton's remarks, perhaps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tihiro View Post
    No. I just don't like that someone somewere on planet Earth still masturbate on Hitler's images and pretend that this is their own and saint national point of view to the history of WW2.
    There still plenty of Stalin Masturbators around also

    Quote Originally Posted by Tihiro View Post
    C'mon, pal! You're adult already. There were "images od Vermaht's uniform" involved. Just let's your brain "start'n'work". This uniform has quite certain associations if you didn't mind, of course.
    As did a Red Army Telegreika to the women of these liberated lands...

    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle9294 View Post
    The Soviets were until the Nazis were defeated. I'd like to know what really happened that made Stalin so paranoid about the West? General Patton's remarks, perhaps?
    Doubt it, for one thing, Stalin already had a History of being a Blue Falcon and stabbing allies in the back. But I'd wager it had to do with his refusal to believe his own intell agenices about Barbarossa ahead of time. by all accounts he was gobsmacked when Hitler invaded him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle9294 View Post
    The Soviets were until the Nazis were defeated. I'd like to know what really happened that made Stalin so paranoid about the West? General Patton's remarks, perhaps?
    There were a lot of books written on the history of the Soviet Union and Stalin, WW2 and Hitler.... so a long way to the knowledge waits for you, my friend!
    Leave your beer and popcorn behind

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    [QUOTE=LineDoggie;6169981]There still plenty of Stalin Masturbators around also

    Do not play a ping-pong game with the words, wise guy. Did they do it? Yes they did!

    As did a Red Army Telegreika to the women of these liberated lands...

    NOT the "telegreika" but "telogreika"...Actually I didn't understand what do you want to tell you in that sentence

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle9294 View Post
    The Soviets were until the Nazis were defeated. I'd like to know what really happened that made Stalin so paranoid about the West? General Patton's remarks, perhaps?
    What it seems to me, that this is a part of the Russian culture. IF you look at the history of Russia, especially after 1900 getting invaded by the West happened. Not only do you have WWI, but the counter revolutionary forces after the October Bolshevik revolution. One of the reason for the buffer states after WWII, was to buffer the SU from any Western invasion.

    Stalin as it has been pointed out was untrustworthy, meaning he probably expected the same from others too.

    I think part of what is misunderstood that probably from anyone old enough to be involved in this period of time is probably near 90 years old or more. Condemning people for the actions back then is one thing, dressing up as nazis today, is completely another issue. Historical Revisionism is not just a problem in the West. It only proves the old statement, "Those who do not remember history, will repeat it."


    BTW, Hitler was the best thing to ever happen to Stalin, other wise he would have gone down in history for all of his crimes against the Soviet People and humanity as one of the worse dictators of the time. The victory over the nazis in WWII, masked those actions of Stalin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mathyou8 View Post
    Merk, do you understand that after "liberation" you were occupants to us. No one asked you to stay in baltics and no one wanted to be ruled by a fagat georgian. Thats why Baltic partisans were fighting long after the war. You were on our land and you were acting almost same way as Germans. Your rules, fear and deportations, segregation. I don't know whats in your head, but please imagine yourself in our shoes and you will see clearer picture. My grandfather told me that soviet soldiers who were moving towards west warned about NKVD. And boy, they were right. It wasn't the time when Russian empire really brought culture to us "barbarians", it was You, uncivilized and backward brute mangled by revolution, communism and war.


    They are probably thinking about pensions, unlivable flats and lack of respect from the government.
    mathyou8 it's not so hard to understand this, at least some of this (no BS about barbarians please; I don't remember Estonia developing a space program, etc...). Now try to understand us. During the Soviet days; you lived no worse than us (better in fact). And you also suffered less than us. None of these things are deniable.

    Yet now in Estonia, Latvia, Russians are being called occupants, have to go through a charade to get citizenship, have to tolerate Waffen SS parades, are given hardships trying to get an education in their native language. And according to people like Drex, this is all 'Kremlin propaganda', and Russians are fine living under a regime that they have absolutely no say in or in some cases even the same rights in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LineDoggie View Post
    By replacing one oppressor with themselves as oppressors
    You can't compare what were essentially Cold War client/sattelite states (both America and the USSR had those let's not forget); with the actual Nazi controlled territory where people of certain ethnicities were simply shipped to gas chambers.

    It's a completely different definition of 'oppression'.

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    [QUOTE=Tihiro;6170001]
    Quote Originally Posted by LineDoggie View Post
    There still plenty of Stalin Masturbators around also

    Do not play a ping-pong game with the words, wise guy. Did they do it? Yes they did!

    As did a Red Army Telegreika to the women of these liberated lands...

    NOT the "telegreika" but "telogreika"...Actually I didn't understand what do you want to tell you in that sentence
    I put it to you plainly
    The Red Army was No Liberators for Millions in Eastern Europe. It replaced Nazi Terror with Soviet Terror, and a Red Army uniform could instill as much fear in eastern europe in 1945 as a waffen-ss one.

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