Reply With Quotethese morons are going to destroy the only good things they have, peace and time, to build a reasonable country.
Egypt debate: Israel enemy or adversary?
Egyptian presidential hopefuls Amr Moussa, Abdel Moneim Abol Fotouh trade barbs, but agree: Israel treaty must be reviewed
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...227667,00.html
these morons are going to destroy the only good things they have, peace and time, to build a reasonable country.
Of all the things Egypt could spend their political capital worrying, its about this?
Completely insane, they dont deserve the name of their country
Economy ? Tourism ? Making the lives of our citizens better ?
Naah... let's go to war !!
even after a good spanking they will be asking for more
TBH, given the absurd issues that are bandied around in our own elections, I'm not sure we have much of a leg to stand on when it comes to telling Egyptian politicians' what they should debate or not...Originally Posted by IconOfEvi
That's what you get when your country's population is full of anti-semites.
I agree with the above posts. Are these guys complete lunatics? Their country is a corrupt economic and social basket for the lack of a better phrase.
But to hell with all that. Lets start a war with Israel!
It almost sounds like it is a ''play'' straight out of the "Corrupt Dictators Handbook". Country is going to hell, the people are angry with the ruling elite over domestic issues. So lets start a war with someone to take their minds off it all.
Egypt is in the midst of a huge food and economic crisis. They import more food than any other nation on Earth, and the political turmoil there has severely disrupted the already weak and vulnerable economy. But their religious bigotry and the political power struggle seems to trump all other considerations. If they abrogate the peace treaty with Israel, they will lose a lot of desperately needed western aid, making their dire situation just that much more critical. And there appears to be a significant chance of civil war between the military and Isalmists as the political deadlock gets worse and the two sides keep hurling increasingly violent threats at each other. It is as if they are in the process of drowning, and yet they are focused on hitting themselves in the head with a ball peen hammer instead of trying to tread water. Egypt's future looks bleak indeed. It may soon end up looking like Somalia if they keep going the way they are going now.
Poll: 61% of Egyptians want to cancel Israel treaty
By OREN KESSLER
05/13/2012 02:54
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The poll, released last week by the Washington-based Pew Research Center, showed 61 percent of Egyptians want to cancel the 1979 agreement, while a third want to keep the treaty and the rest are undecided.
The survey found opposition to the agreement had grown significantly over the last year among people under 30 (up 14 percentage points to 64%) and the college-educated (up 18 points to 58%).
The poll was based on 1,000 face-to-face interviews conducted in Arabic between March 19 and April 10, and has a margin of error of 4%.
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Pollsters found little change in Egyptians’ overwhelmingly negative views of their country’s decades-long ally, the United States: 79% had unfavorable opinions of America – the same figure as last year – and only 19% were favorable.
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US President Barack Obama is similarly unpopular. Nearly seven in ten respondents lacked confidence in Obama’s foreign policy, compared to just 29% expressing confidence. In 2009, ahead of Obama’s landmark Cairo address to the Muslim world, 42% of Egyptians said they had confidence in him.
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Seventy percent of those polled expressed positive views of the Muslim Brotherhood, down from 75% last year, and more than eight in ten said religious leaders had a positive effect on society. Opinions on the hard-line Islamist Salafi Nour party were evenly split, with 44% for and against.
Egyptians “want Islam to play a major role in society, and most believe the Koran should shape the country’s laws, although a growing minority expresses reservations about the increasing influence of Islam in politics,” the pollsters wrote.
http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=269693
A surprising point: the Peace treaty is less unpopular (61% unfavorable opinions) than the US (79%) and President Obama (about 70%) are.
Last edited by Camera; 05-13-2012 at 04:50 AM.
If the Egyptians abolish the Peace Treaty then no sane Israeli will ever support the concept of Land for Peace.
Last edited by EITAN88; 05-13-2012 at 05:32 AM. Reason: Typo.
Just throwing this hypothetical situation out there for comment.
If Egypt abandons the Peace Treaty with Israel, and war breaks out. At the end of this hypothetical conflict, Israel recaptures the Sinai.
Would Israel have to give it back, again?
The Camp David Accords are based upon UNSC Resolution 242 which was passed following the Six Day War.
A scenario such as the one you present will entitle the Sinai to gain a status that could be different from the one it had follwing 1967.
Honestly, I don't want the Sinai. Sure it's a huge piece of land and it got some oil in it but the Bedouin in there have grown out of control... I'd rather them be Egypt problem than ours.
Warder
It's an interesting question.
When they signed the peace treaty, the Israelis were concerned they may render a strategic asset in exchange of a piece of paper. They had faith in Sadat who really wanted peace, but just like the Americans they were aware of Egypt's sad record of violations of international agreements and treaties.
For that reason, the US provided Israel with bilateral guarantees that are annexed to the peace treaty.
To sum-up, if Egypt violates the treaty, the US will assist Israel by all means and Egypt should encounter unprecedented risks.
The text of the memorandum: http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Peace+Proc...+Agreement.htm
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