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    Russia is testing Italy's Centauro wheeled tank and considering building it under license, a representative of the Oto-Melara company which makes the tank said on Saturday.
    "The first two machines with 105-mm and 125-mm guns are on trial at a Moscow Region proving ground," he said.
    Two more Centauros with 120-mm and 30-mm guns will also join the trials in another six weeks. "The tanks will take part in laboratory, driving and firing trials," the Oto-Melara representative said.
    When the trials are complete at the end of this year, Russia will consider creating a joint venture for production of the tank with an enterprise from the Russian military-industrial complex, he said.
    Russian truck maker Kamaz in Naberezhny Chelny could be involved in the deal, according to a source in Russian arms sales holding Rosoboronexport.
    Commenting on the report that Russia is considering building Centauro tanks under license, Yury Borisov, first deputy head of the military-industrial commission, said Russia will only buy foreign weapon models on a one-off basis to study the manufacturing technology and then set up its own production.
    A number of military experts earlier said licensed production of those machines in Russia is unlikely.
    Russia signed a deal with Italy in December for the semi-knocked down assembly of 60 Lynx light multirole armored vehicles (LMV) from Iveco, Deputy Defense Minister Alexander Sukhorukov said in January.
    Oto-Melara, part of the Italian Finnmeccanica group, is part of the CIO joint venture with vehicle manufacturer Iveco to make military vehicles.
    Italy already has 400 Centauros in service. The 24 ton tank has a four-man crew, top speed of 100 km/h (60 mph) and range of 800 km (500 miles). It has a main gun and two 7.62 mm machineguns.
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    It's not a tank

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    And its repost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Universal_Soldier View Post
    It's not a tank
    You know how militarily-illiterate journalists are

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    Again - why are they testing it? It pretty bad vehicle that cannot even survive heavy machine gun fire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyusu View Post
    vehicle that cannot even survive heavy machine gun fire.

    The Centauro hull is an all-welded steel armoured hull which is designed to withstand in the baseline configuration 14.5 mm bullets and shell fragments with protection against 25 mm munition on the frontal section. Protection can be increased by the addition of bolt on appliqué armour which increases protection against 30 mm rounds.
    That caliber qualifies as a heavy machine gun, try not to make BS up.

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    I could understand if they would test anything "good" but this!? For real!?
    This crap on 8wheels buy a Sprut or BMP. Nothing to gain really nothing !! Who the **** is profiting from this deals?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grax View Post
    I could understand if they would test anything "good" but this!? For real!?
    This crap on 8wheels buy a Sprut or BMP. Nothing to gain really nothing !! Who the **** is profiting from this deals?
    The mafia...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grax View Post
    I could understand if they would test anything "good" but this!? For real!?
    This crap on 8wheels buy a Sprut or BMP. Nothing to gain really nothing !! Who the **** is profiting from this deals?

    this "crap" was highly successful in several missions in the last 20 years, was also tested by the US Army (from which they developed the Stryker MGS concept)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grax View Post
    I could understand if they would test anything "good" but this!? For real!?
    This crap on 8wheels buy a Sprut or BMP. Nothing to gain really nothing !! Who the **** is profiting from this deals?
    It was successful in Yugoslavia, Somalia and Iraq. How exactly is it crap?

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    Maybe the Russian's want some mobile gun systems for their BTR infantry companies and battalion's, not a bad idea(a section in the companies and a platoon on battalion level).Centauro is a good design.. don't know how reliable they are(?), but the Russian's will of course build them themself. So the Russian's can probably fix what ever flaws they find on the Italian build ones.. Not a bad idea from the Russian's in my opinion. Think of all money they can safe..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hisroyalhighness View Post
    It was successful in Yugoslavia, Somalia and Iraq. How exactly is it crap?
    Has it ever fired a cannon round in anger?

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    Quote Originally Posted by easyand2 View Post
    this "crap" was highly successful in several missions in the last 20 years, was also tested by the US Army (from which they developed the Stryker MGS concept)
    Exactly!
    It was successful in the last 20 years and the US Army developed the Stryker MGS on the base!
    Why should Russia buy anything which is inferior to new developments and is an almost 30years old system!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dane View Post
    Has it ever fired a cannon round in anger?
    Combat History says yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Dane View Post
    Maybe the Russian's want some mobile gun systems for their BTR infantry companies and battalion's,
    They already have one: 2S23 Nona-SVK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Universal_Soldier View Post
    It's not a tank
    Right, its a Radpanzer! A variant of a Panzer.

    This is a tank:

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