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    Quote Originally Posted by Hollis View Post
    For the Paul affectionattos, this is a big thing. No reason to bring up those facts. At the national convention, it is pretty much clear who will get the nomination.
    Nice strawman, but nobody said or thinks that Paul is going to get the nomination at this point, not even his most ardent supporters. But if it goes to a brokered convention, Paul can extract concessions out of Romney so far as policy. And Romney's current delegate count, according to AP, is 966.

    The two big remaining state primaries are California (5 June) and Texas (29 May). All the smaller states' primaries between now the Texas primary are conservative states with proportional primaries. Romney is going to have tough sledding there. Texas is a proportional state as well, so Romney only gets a percentage of the delegates based on how well he does in the primary. Texas is a very conservative state, as well as Ron Paul's home state, so how well Romeny does there remains to be seen. Romney is seen as a Massachusetts liberal RINO there. California is a 'winner take all' state, and obviously much more liberal. Romney should win there, and that should get him enough delegates to push him over the top and prevent a brokered convention. Even if that is not enough, New Jersey will be enough if there is just a thin margin remaining. If not, the rest of the remaining states are mostly very conservative and all proportional primaries. So unless something happens or Romney really screws up, he should be able to win the nomination before the convention. Of course, in politics, anything is possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ought Six View Post
    Nice strawman, but nobody said or thinks that Paul is going to get the nomination at this point, not even his most ardent supporters. But if it goes to a brokered convention, Paul can extract concessions out of Romney so far as policy. And Romney's current delegate count, according to AP, is 966.

    The two big remaining state primaries are California (5 June) and Texas (29 May). All the smaller states' primaries between now the Texas primary are conservative states with proportional primaries. Romney is going to have tough sledding there. Texas is a proportional state as well, so Romney only gets a percentage of the delegates based on how well he does in the primary. Texas is a very conservative state, as well as Ron Paul's home state, so how well Romeny does there remains to be seen. Romney is seen as a Massachusetts liberal RINO there. California is a 'winner take all' state, and obviously much more liberal. Romney should win there, and that should get him enough delegates to push him over the top and prevent a brokered convention. Even if that is not enough, New Jersey will be enough if there is just a thin margin remaining. If not, the rest of the remaining states are mostly very conservative and all proportional primaries. So unless something happens or Romney really screws up, he should be able to win the nomination before the convention. Of course, in politics, anything is possible.
    What the hell could Romney possibly want in his tool box that Ron Paul could offer? And even if he told RP to FOAD he'd still get the nomination.

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    What the hell could Romney possibly want in his tool box that Ron Paul could offer?
    Non-opposition during the general election. Perhaps even some statements of support on areas they can find common ground.

    Paul is retiring from Congress after this either way. But he may be able to influence some appointments, or insert his policy points into the debate on a truly national stage.

    I know some conservative democrats who say the only republican they can even stand listening to is Ron Paul.

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    RP got 11 states so far......

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    Quote Originally Posted by poolboy View Post


    RP got 11 states so far......
    They don't go by states, they go by delegates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poolboy View Post


    RP got 11 states so far......
    What source?, because with your claims he has still around 100 delegates to Romneys 900 plus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C.Puffs View Post
    They don't go by states, they go by delegates.
    i know but he got majority delegates in those states.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by poolboy View Post
    i know but he got majority delegates in those states.......
    Really? so 11 states only equal him 100 plus delegates?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LineDoggie View Post
    Really? so 11 states only equal him 100 plus delegates?
    exactly my point, AP is throwing about bs numbers, they are counting delegates who haven't even been selected by state conventions

    only 898 delegates in total have been selected by states so far.......so Romeny has no where near 966 delegates

    while there are still 1388 delegates up for grabs

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    not only those numbers are wrong considering paul won 22 delegates in nevada rather than 5 (and thats only one of many "mistakes")

    also around 32 states have yet to elect their delegates

    popular votes in primaries and causes dont guarantee your delegates either, which is where AP is very wrong

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    Well this selection method is pretty complicated...

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    Quote Originally Posted by poolboy View Post
    not only those numbers are wrong considering paul won 22 delegates in nevada rather than 5 (and thats only one of many "mistakes")

    also around 32 states have yet to elect their delegates

    popular votes in primaries and causes dont guarantee your delegates either, which is where AP is very wrong
    Always amazing how everyone else is wrong but Ron Paul and his supporters are always winning, yet he never is the nominee

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    Ron Paul is a nutcase and is just farting around. He needs to retire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LineDoggie View Post
    Always amazing how everyone else is wrong but Ron Paul and his supporters are always winning, yet he never is the nominee
    In Nevada, for example, 22 of the 25 delegates chosen Sunday to go to the national convention openly support Paul.

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...408d7352a370da


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